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If Dave Winer's writing ability was half the size of his ego, he'd be the next Shakespeare. I still get a kick out of the sheer arrogance of putting permalinks

If Dave Winer's writing ability was half the size of his ego, he'd be the next Shakespeare. I still get a kick out of the sheer arrogance of putting permalinks on every paragraph. This is a typical piece of his. Not very well thought out, kind of rambles for a few paragraphs, ans basically says that so-and-so is lame because they're not internetty enough. (Now, if Twitter could do something really awesome like inventing RSS, then maybe they'd be worth talking about.)

jamesbritt 17y ago
" I still get a kick out of the sheer arrogance of putting permalinks on every paragraph." Arrogance? It's a great idea. Makes it simple to link to a particular part of an article of interest, and probably simple enough to build into a publishing tool so you don't have to think about it.
nir 17y ago
To his credit, though, unlike many other Web celebs Winer at least has some code to back his ego. Twitter has ways to before its impact is comparable to RSS.
- yayeditor 17y ago
  It's worth noting that the TechCrunch article goes so far as to call out RSS (again), as seen through the eyes of Twitter. "Don't just connect RSS feed," the notes read. "What if all feeds went through twitter: would be expensive." But Winer's also probably alluding to the "we're creating a new Internet" vibe that's so palpable in Twitter's notes. The Twitter meeting notes: http://cache0.techcrunch.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/tw-strat-feeds.png http://cache0.techcrunch.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/tw-s...
- kragen 17y ago
  Sure, but Dave Winer didn't invent RSS, and the code he wrote (Userland Frontier) was never very widely used, and is now used by almost nobody. It was visionary — it kind of defined what we now call the CMS — but it wasn't well executed.
salvadors 17y ago
Paragraph based permalinks go the whole way back to Engelbart: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purple_Numbers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purple_Numbers

jamesbritt 17y ago

" I still get a kick out of the sheer arrogance of putting permalinks on every paragraph." Arrogance? It's a great idea. Makes it simple to link to a particular part of an article of interest, and probably simple enough to build into a publishing tool so you don't have to think about it.

nir 17y ago

To his credit, though, unlike many other Web celebs Winer at least has some code to back his ego. Twitter has ways to before its impact is comparable to RSS.

yayeditor 17y ago
It's worth noting that the TechCrunch article goes so far as to call out RSS (again), as seen through the eyes of Twitter. "Don't just connect RSS feed," the notes read. "What if all feeds went through twitter: would be expensive." But Winer's also probably alluding to the "we're creating a new Internet" vibe that's so palpable in Twitter's notes. The Twitter meeting notes: http://cache0.techcrunch.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/tw-strat-feeds.png http://cache0.techcrunch.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/tw-s...
kragen 17y ago
Sure, but Dave Winer didn't invent RSS, and the code he wrote (Userland Frontier) was never very widely used, and is now used by almost nobody. It was visionary — it kind of defined what we now call the CMS — but it wasn't well executed.

salvadors 17y ago

Paragraph based permalinks go the whole way back to Engelbart: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purple_Numbers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purple_Numbers