4 ms·

Persona is an elegant, powerful idea that is 100% in the users interest. I dearly want to see it gain traction. Kudos for disseminating your enthusiasm.

by crayola 13y ago

StavrosK 13y ago
I completely agree. I was just thinking about this earlier today, there was lots of hype last year about it but it seems to have died down, and the project seems to have stalled. I really want to see it pick up steam and succeed, and I think the number one priority now is to implement plugins for major browsers. I hope the team picks up development again.
- dochtman 13y ago
  The team has been focused on Persona support in Firefox OS, the Firefox Accounts stuff which relies on some of the same code as Persona, and integration on Firefox desktop. They have by no means stopped working on Persona, but resources on the Identity team seem kind of limited relative to how much there is still to be done.
  - StavrosK 13y ago
    Hmm, right. It seems that interest has died down a bit, so maybe it'd be worth spending some man-hours keeping it alive, even if it takes away from development time. The community could maybe help with development? If not with Firefox OS/Accounts, at least with the web component.
    - dochtman 13y ago
      I have, but not much of the community seems interested in helping out. To be fair, it's also pretty hard to help out while the team is focused on doing other stuff.
      - StavrosK 13y ago
        Hmm, right :/ What are some things you guys need help with? Maybe we could pitch in.
      - girvo 13y ago
        I'd be glad to help any way I can, my email is in my profile. Persona is amazing and needs to survive and thrive in my opinion...
dochtman 13y ago
Here's a crazy simple way to implement Persona authentication for your Apache-deployed apps/sites: https://github.com/mozilla/mod_authnz_persona https://github.com/mozilla/mod_authnz_persona (I know Apache may not be that popular with the HN crowd anymore, but I don't currently have the time to dive into nginx and do the same for it. Nevertheless, if anyone wants to do that, I'd be happy to answer questions and provide pointers into the Apache code.)
- StavrosK 13y ago
  Oh wow, that's fantastic! I would love an nginx module that did this, although wishes don't go far.
  - mixedbit 13y ago
    You may try https://github.com/wrr/wwwhisper https://github.com/wrr/wwwhisper, although unlike the apache module, wwwhisper runs as a separate service (Django) that nginx communicates with using auth_request module.
    - StavrosK 13y ago
      Looks nice, thank you!
- y0ghur7_xxx 13y ago
  > I know Apache may not be that popular with the HN crowd anymore I still love it. Thanks for the module.
drdaeman 13y ago
Not elegant at all, but the best option we have supported by some powerful force (Mozilla) that can push it onto users by embedding it into their browser. Personally, I view Persona as just an awkward kludge that, while improves some important things, also does certain harm by pushing us one step away from making third parties mere notaries of one's identity, not its very providers. Because it's me who's the source of my identity, nor my email provider nor domain registrar.

Persona is an elegant, powerful idea that is 100% in the users interest. I dearly want to see it gain traction. Kudos for disseminating your enthusiasm.

by crayola 13y ago

Persona is an elegant, powerful idea that is 100% in the users interest. I dearly want to see it gain traction. Kudos for disseminating your enthusiasm.

StavrosK 13y ago

I completely agree. I was just thinking about this earlier today, there was lots of hype last year about it but it seems to have died down, and the project seems to have stalled. I really want to see it pick up steam and succeed, and I think the number one priority now is to implement plugins for major browsers. I hope the team picks up development again.

dochtman 13y ago
The team has been focused on Persona support in Firefox OS, the Firefox Accounts stuff which relies on some of the same code as Persona, and integration on Firefox desktop. They have by no means stopped working on Persona, but resources on the Identity team seem kind of limited relative to how much there is still to be done.
- StavrosK 13y ago
  Hmm, right. It seems that interest has died down a bit, so maybe it'd be worth spending some man-hours keeping it alive, even if it takes away from development time. The community could maybe help with development? If not with Firefox OS/Accounts, at least with the web component.
  - dochtman 13y ago
    I have, but not much of the community seems interested in helping out. To be fair, it's also pretty hard to help out while the team is focused on doing other stuff.
    - StavrosK 13y ago
      Hmm, right :/ What are some things you guys need help with? Maybe we could pitch in.
    - girvo 13y ago
      I'd be glad to help any way I can, my email is in my profile. Persona is amazing and needs to survive and thrive in my opinion...

dochtman 13y ago

Here's a crazy simple way to implement Persona authentication for your Apache-deployed apps/sites: https://github.com/mozilla/mod_authnz_persona https://github.com/mozilla/mod_authnz_persona (I know Apache may not be that popular with the HN crowd anymore, but I don't currently have the time to dive into nginx and do the same for it. Nevertheless, if anyone wants to do that, I'd be happy to answer questions and provide pointers into the Apache code.)

StavrosK 13y ago
Oh wow, that's fantastic! I would love an nginx module that did this, although wishes don't go far.
- mixedbit 13y ago
  You may try https://github.com/wrr/wwwhisper https://github.com/wrr/wwwhisper, although unlike the apache module, wwwhisper runs as a separate service (Django) that nginx communicates with using auth_request module.
  - StavrosK 13y ago
    Looks nice, thank you!
y0ghur7_xxx 13y ago
> I know Apache may not be that popular with the HN crowd anymore I still love it. Thanks for the module.

drdaeman 13y ago

Not elegant at all, but the best option we have supported by some powerful force (Mozilla) that can push it onto users by embedding it into their browser. Personally, I view Persona as just an awkward kludge that, while improves some important things, also does certain harm by pushing us one step away from making third parties mere notaries of one's identity, not its very providers. Because it's me who's the source of my identity, nor my email provider nor domain registrar.