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> Google has been taking a collective shit The biggest issue with anything Google related is absolute lack of communication/transparency. They have been baning

by ucho 13y ago

> Google has been taking a collective shit The biggest issue with anything Google related is absolute lack of communication/transparency. They have been baning web pages from Google AdSense and never told the owners why, without any way to appeal decision. The oracle has spoken, You are not worthy. Take this automatic reply message based on some words from your email.

jacquesm 13y ago
> They have been baning web pages from Google AdSense and never told the owners why, without any way to appeal decision. This is actually a huge problem. But google does not care about the supply side, they have plenty of inventory, they only care about the demand side.
iancarroll 13y ago
In the suspension notice I received I had a way to appeal it.
- alextingle 13y ago
  Did it work? In my experience, I fixed the problem they reported, but then they still refused to reinstate the site. I was left playing 20 questions, trying to guess which other policy I might have violated.
  - iancarroll 13y ago
    I didn't bother - it would've taken me over a year to reach the payout threshold.
- poopsintub 13y ago
  I received a notification in adsense that I was in violation of a policy and clicked the "ok", or "fixed" button when I removed the page. They don't just ban people and walk away unless you plain didn't read the TOS and are breaking big rules like clicking your own ads, doing shady stuff, etc.
  - iancarroll 13y ago
    But they do, you simply haven't experienced the scenario yet.
  - billmalarky 13y ago
    "They don't just ban people and walk away unless you plain didn't read the TOS and are breaking big rules like clicking your own ads, doing shady stuff, etc." Simply not true. I was banned from adsense for "manipulating ads" or some such thing. I of course had never done this, and had actually put a LOT of effort into making sure that there was no way I could be flagged for click fraud. I actively told any family or friends that knew about my project to NEVER click on an ad on my site. It just wasn't worth the risk of getting banned from adsense, since most other networks pay significantly less for significantly more headaches. I had a high traffic site that was bringing in a lot of money without any need to cheat (so why risk everything for a few bucks?). Well I ended up getting banned regardless for who knows why, maybe someone had it out for me and committed click fraud on the site through a bunch of proxy servers, I have no idea. Google refused to give me any information whatsoever. They did allow me to "appeal" to them, but it was clear in their automated response that no human read my appeal. Anyways, I'll never trust Google again for anything business critical. By which I mean any project that relies heavily on Google in some way is very high risk. If something goes wrong (ie they shut down a service you rely on etc) they won't care to work with you in the slightest (unless you already have SV connections like rap genius). On a side note, I did have a Google sales team reach out and contact me about a year later asking if I wanted to get involved in some new ad product they were working on. It was quite a slap in the face when I had to tell them that I was actually banned from adsense. Of course they responded by telling me there was nothing they could do to help overturn my ban. I guess even people who work at Google can't get actual feedback from Google.
  - LoganCale 13y ago
    I was banned for invalid click activity. I NEVER clicked any of my ads intentionally and never asked anyone else to either. One time I misclicked and hit an ad and immediately looked up whether I needed to report it and found a page saying that an accidental click was fine and didn't need to be reported. I mentioned this in my appeal after getting banned and got a nonanswer that they couldn't help me and I would stay banned.
- LoganCale 13y ago
  You get one single appeal, and in my experience they don't give you any additional information on what you may have done to get banned and just tell you you're going to stay banned.
mason240 13y ago
> Take this automatic reply message based on some words from your email. And hopefully you didn't make the mistake of publishing things with your personal google/gmail username, because that might get permanently closed with no recourse.

by ucho 13y ago

jacquesm 13y ago

> They have been baning web pages from Google AdSense and never told the owners why, without any way to appeal decision. This is actually a huge problem. But google does not care about the supply side, they have plenty of inventory, they only care about the demand side.

iancarroll 13y ago

In the suspension notice I received I had a way to appeal it.

alextingle 13y ago
Did it work? In my experience, I fixed the problem they reported, but then they still refused to reinstate the site. I was left playing 20 questions, trying to guess which other policy I might have violated.
- iancarroll 13y ago
  I didn't bother - it would've taken me over a year to reach the payout threshold.
poopsintub 13y ago
I received a notification in adsense that I was in violation of a policy and clicked the "ok", or "fixed" button when I removed the page. They don't just ban people and walk away unless you plain didn't read the TOS and are breaking big rules like clicking your own ads, doing shady stuff, etc.
- iancarroll 13y ago
  But they do, you simply haven't experienced the scenario yet.
- billmalarky 13y ago
  "They don't just ban people and walk away unless you plain didn't read the TOS and are breaking big rules like clicking your own ads, doing shady stuff, etc." Simply not true. I was banned from adsense for "manipulating ads" or some such thing. I of course had never done this, and had actually put a LOT of effort into making sure that there was no way I could be flagged for click fraud. I actively told any family or friends that knew about my project to NEVER click on an ad on my site. It just wasn't worth the risk of getting banned from adsense, since most other networks pay significantly less for significantly more headaches. I had a high traffic site that was bringing in a lot of money without any need to cheat (so why risk everything for a few bucks?). Well I ended up getting banned regardless for who knows why, maybe someone had it out for me and committed click fraud on the site through a bunch of proxy servers, I have no idea. Google refused to give me any information whatsoever. They did allow me to "appeal" to them, but it was clear in their automated response that no human read my appeal. Anyways, I'll never trust Google again for anything business critical. By which I mean any project that relies heavily on Google in some way is very high risk. If something goes wrong (ie they shut down a service you rely on etc) they won't care to work with you in the slightest (unless you already have SV connections like rap genius). On a side note, I did have a Google sales team reach out and contact me about a year later asking if I wanted to get involved in some new ad product they were working on. It was quite a slap in the face when I had to tell them that I was actually banned from adsense. Of course they responded by telling me there was nothing they could do to help overturn my ban. I guess even people who work at Google can't get actual feedback from Google.
- LoganCale 13y ago
  I was banned for invalid click activity. I NEVER clicked any of my ads intentionally and never asked anyone else to either. One time I misclicked and hit an ad and immediately looked up whether I needed to report it and found a page saying that an accidental click was fine and didn't need to be reported. I mentioned this in my appeal after getting banned and got a nonanswer that they couldn't help me and I would stay banned.
LoganCale 13y ago
You get one single appeal, and in my experience they don't give you any additional information on what you may have done to get banned and just tell you you're going to stay banned.

mason240 13y ago

> Take this automatic reply message based on some words from your email. And hopefully you didn't make the mistake of publishing things with your personal google/gmail username, because that might get permanently closed with no recourse.