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The relevant part of the Developer Distribution Agreement appears to be 3.3: "Such free trials for Products are encouraged. However, if you want to collect fee

The relevant part of the Developer Distribution Agreement appears to be 3.3: "Such free trials for Products are encouraged. However, if you want to collect fees after the free trial expires, you must collect all fees for the full version of the Product through the Payment Processor on the Market." http://play.google.com/about/developer-distribution-agreement.html http://play.google.com/about/developer-distribution-agreemen...

vetinari 13y ago
The point is, that the developer can't use the Payment Processor on the Market, because Google will not allow him to use it (he is from the "wrong country").
- k-mcgrady 13y ago
  Shouldn't the developer have known this through reading the rules of the store BEFORE he/she developer the app? If you can't be bothered to do due diligence before making such a big business decision you aren't equipped to run a business.
  - madeofpalk 13y ago
    As the article pointed out, Google currently features a free app that offers IAP using PayPal. Perhaps the developer did do their due dilligence and saw that Google is (supposedly) OK with it.
    - k-mcgrady 13y ago
      >> "What was most confusing to me is that a similar buying process" He mentions it's a 'similar' process. Maybe there is a crucial difference in the way they are handling things. Hard to tell though as he doesn't mention what the other app is. Still my point stands. If you are breaking a rule because someone else has got away with it you are taking a big risk.
  - lifeisstillgood 13y ago
    Oh come on, Developer wants to build Android app, developer builds Android app, developer puts faith in Google that Google will make it possible for app to get paid. This is exactly the process Google implicitly wants to have happen, its what we all want to have happen. Google just fumbled
    - k-mcgrady 13y ago
      >> "developer puts faith in Google that Google will make it possible for app to get paid" And when you're running a business that's an incredibly stupid thing to do.
      - lifeisstillgood 13y ago
        yup. and thousands do it. Zynga I think valued at a billion dollars based on faith
  - BitMastro 13y ago
    You're being downvoted, but you're right, when you publish an app on the store you legally sign a contract, and the contract specifies what you can and cannot do. Don't like the rules? Don't publish on the play store and let people download the app from you website. It's perfectly doable. Moreover, an official warning was issued more than an year ago reminding play store developers that all IAP should go thought the play store AND more recently, another famous app with more than 150000 users was removed for using PayPal for payment. Edit: copying a comment from reddit: Go to a store and put your homemade apple pies on their shelves with a PayPal QR code and see if that store too becomes "unfair".
    - bennyg 13y ago
      Google isn't a store though. They are a distribution channel, who happened to build their own self-checkout lanes after several checkout lanes were already installed, then put caution tape up in front of the other ones. Google needs developers, just like developers need Google (if you're developing for Android and don't mind making waaaaaayyyy less than if you were developing for iOS :p).
      - BitMastro 13y ago
        I didn't downvote you, but these are the facts: 1)The "Play Store" is, like the name says, a store, just like every single store is a distribution channel. 2)While I understand that for some it may look unfair, a contract is a contract, you cannot sign and then ignore the rules of a contract because it's "unfair". You just don't sign it. 3)On iOS the app will not have been accepted in the first place and maybe (I'm just supposing) the developer didn't want to buy a mac, buy an iPhone, learn objective c and pay 100$ a year to make the app for iOS. :P
  - The_Double 13y ago
    There are people who had paypal options before google wallet/IAP even existed.
danmaz74 13y ago
Who is downvoting a comment which merely points to a fact?
- natch 13y ago
  A fact which completely misses the point... maybe it's time to re-read the fine article.
  - danmaz74 13y ago
    So you don't like that fact. But it is still a fact - don't shoot the messenger :)

vetinari 13y ago

The point is, that the developer can't use the Payment Processor on the Market, because Google will not allow him to use it (he is from the "wrong country").

k-mcgrady 13y ago
Shouldn't the developer have known this through reading the rules of the store BEFORE he/she developer the app? If you can't be bothered to do due diligence before making such a big business decision you aren't equipped to run a business.
- madeofpalk 13y ago
  As the article pointed out, Google currently features a free app that offers IAP using PayPal. Perhaps the developer did do their due dilligence and saw that Google is (supposedly) OK with it.
  - k-mcgrady 13y ago
    >> "What was most confusing to me is that a similar buying process" He mentions it's a 'similar' process. Maybe there is a crucial difference in the way they are handling things. Hard to tell though as he doesn't mention what the other app is. Still my point stands. If you are breaking a rule because someone else has got away with it you are taking a big risk.
- lifeisstillgood 13y ago
  Oh come on, Developer wants to build Android app, developer builds Android app, developer puts faith in Google that Google will make it possible for app to get paid. This is exactly the process Google implicitly wants to have happen, its what we all want to have happen. Google just fumbled
  - k-mcgrady 13y ago
    >> "developer puts faith in Google that Google will make it possible for app to get paid" And when you're running a business that's an incredibly stupid thing to do.
    - lifeisstillgood 13y ago
      yup. and thousands do it. Zynga I think valued at a billion dollars based on faith
- BitMastro 13y ago
  You're being downvoted, but you're right, when you publish an app on the store you legally sign a contract, and the contract specifies what you can and cannot do. Don't like the rules? Don't publish on the play store and let people download the app from you website. It's perfectly doable. Moreover, an official warning was issued more than an year ago reminding play store developers that all IAP should go thought the play store AND more recently, another famous app with more than 150000 users was removed for using PayPal for payment. Edit: copying a comment from reddit: Go to a store and put your homemade apple pies on their shelves with a PayPal QR code and see if that store too becomes "unfair".
  - bennyg 13y ago
    Google isn't a store though. They are a distribution channel, who happened to build their own self-checkout lanes after several checkout lanes were already installed, then put caution tape up in front of the other ones. Google needs developers, just like developers need Google (if you're developing for Android and don't mind making waaaaaayyyy less than if you were developing for iOS :p).
    - BitMastro 13y ago
      I didn't downvote you, but these are the facts: 1)The "Play Store" is, like the name says, a store, just like every single store is a distribution channel. 2)While I understand that for some it may look unfair, a contract is a contract, you cannot sign and then ignore the rules of a contract because it's "unfair". You just don't sign it. 3)On iOS the app will not have been accepted in the first place and maybe (I'm just supposing) the developer didn't want to buy a mac, buy an iPhone, learn objective c and pay 100$ a year to make the app for iOS. :P
- The_Double 13y ago
  There are people who had paypal options before google wallet/IAP even existed.

danmaz74 13y ago

Who is downvoting a comment which merely points to a fact?

natch 13y ago
A fact which completely misses the point... maybe it's time to re-read the fine article.
- danmaz74 13y ago
  So you don't like that fact. But it is still a fact - don't shoot the messenger :)