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If you wanted to find a friend for someone would you keep trying to introduce them to same stupid ugly person, while saying: "Look! He/she is wearing make-up th

by CmonDev 13y ago

If you wanted to find a friend for someone would you keep trying to introduce them to same stupid ugly person, while saying: "Look! He/she is wearing make-up this time!".

kajecounterhack 13y ago
This isn't a productive comment. Whether you like it or not js is here to stay. It's the language of the web (and more). A lot of new capabilities are being exposed via browser makers (e.g peerconnection, webrtc) which only serve to increase its power. Calling it stupid and ugly is your unsubstantiated opinion. (Infinitely more useful: say why this is your opinion.) I think this is a nice intro to the language. Why it's being posted now though is a little puzzling considering it's from 2006. It is obviously still relevant and interesting but readers should realize it's not very recent.
- lobotryas 13y ago
  I've never gone very deep with JS. Anything you could recommend, off the top of your head, for a more recent look at the language?
  - CmonDev 13y ago
    http://wtfjs.com http://wtfjs.com
  - thousande 13y ago
    There has been added a lot of new features to the browser, but the core language (EcmaScript) has not evolved much for a while. * Overview: https://rawgithub.com/whatwg/html-differences/master/Overview.html#apis https://rawgithub.com/whatwg/html-differences/master/Overvie... The next thing is JavaScript "next" or Ecma Script 6 * http://wiki.ecmascript.org/doku.php?id=harmony:proposals http://wiki.ecmascript.org/doku.php?id=harmony:proposals You can use Traceur if you want to try out ES6 features today More info: https://github.com/google/traceur-compiler https://github.com/google/traceur-compiler These days there is a lot of things going on in the tooling section Build: * Grunt: http://gruntjs.com/ http://gruntjs.com/ - a lot of grunt- tasks at http://npmjs.org/ http://npmjs.org/ * Newest kid in town: https://github.com/gulpjs/gulp https://github.com/gulpjs/gulp Modulization and dependency management: * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CommonJS http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CommonJS * http://browserify.org/ http://browserify.org/
  - aye 13y ago
    JavaScript Spessore, by Reginald Braithwaite: https://leanpub.com/javascript-spessore https://leanpub.com/javascript-spessore
    - raganwald 13y ago
      Thank you, although please note that "JavaScript Spessore" is (a) a work-in-progress, and (b) about "Thinking in objects" more than "The idiomatic way to program in JavaScript.
- ldarcyftw 13y ago
  > js is here to stay. It's the language of the web In the same manner as assembler is here to stay. Assembler is "the language of the computer". Not that many people write assembler these days though, majority moved on to languages more suited to their needs.
viach 13y ago
Did you just mean Java 7?
Trufa 13y ago
You got the metaphor wrong. "Hey, look, this is Jenna. You'll have to work with her for the next 10 years. She's hard to figure out and grumpy at times, but if you treat her right she'll play along. Actually if you get to know her, she can be a great asset."
- pekk 13y ago
  Please stop blaming users. If Jenna is a royal pain in the ass by design, her being a pain in the ass isn't the user's fault for not "treating her right." Whether it is an asset to work around her crap or not. There's all kinds of things which are an asset to know but are a huge pain in the ass to work with, and somehow we are allowed to complain about most of those but god help the man who complains about Jenna in public. She's connected.
  - raganwald 13y ago
    Paul Graham once said, "Where there's muck, there's brass." He explained that there is often an opportunity to be had if you dive deep down into ugly, unpleasant things and find a way to make them work.
    - CmonDev 13y ago
      http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/408900.html http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/408900.html "Don’t make idols for yourselves" is another old expression.
sgon00 13y ago
“Everything that can be written in JavaScript will eventually be written in JavaScript”. – Atwood’s law "Everything’s Gone JavaScript" "The future is written in Javascript" JavaScript is now an integral part of several operating systems. JavaScript is also moving quickly into the hardware world.

by CmonDev 13y ago

If you wanted to find a friend for someone would you keep trying to introduce them to same stupid ugly person, while saying: "Look! He/she is wearing make-up this time!".

kajecounterhack 13y ago

This isn't a productive comment. Whether you like it or not js is here to stay. It's the language of the web (and more). A lot of new capabilities are being exposed via browser makers (e.g peerconnection, webrtc) which only serve to increase its power. Calling it stupid and ugly is your unsubstantiated opinion. (Infinitely more useful: say why this is your opinion.) I think this is a nice intro to the language. Why it's being posted now though is a little puzzling considering it's from 2006. It is obviously still relevant and interesting but readers should realize it's not very recent.

lobotryas 13y ago
I've never gone very deep with JS. Anything you could recommend, off the top of your head, for a more recent look at the language?
- CmonDev 13y ago
  http://wtfjs.com http://wtfjs.com
- thousande 13y ago
  There has been added a lot of new features to the browser, but the core language (EcmaScript) has not evolved much for a while. * Overview: https://rawgithub.com/whatwg/html-differences/master/Overview.html#apis https://rawgithub.com/whatwg/html-differences/master/Overvie... The next thing is JavaScript "next" or Ecma Script 6 * http://wiki.ecmascript.org/doku.php?id=harmony:proposals http://wiki.ecmascript.org/doku.php?id=harmony:proposals You can use Traceur if you want to try out ES6 features today More info: https://github.com/google/traceur-compiler https://github.com/google/traceur-compiler These days there is a lot of things going on in the tooling section Build: * Grunt: http://gruntjs.com/ http://gruntjs.com/ - a lot of grunt- tasks at http://npmjs.org/ http://npmjs.org/ * Newest kid in town: https://github.com/gulpjs/gulp https://github.com/gulpjs/gulp Modulization and dependency management: * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CommonJS http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CommonJS * http://browserify.org/ http://browserify.org/
- aye 13y ago
  JavaScript Spessore, by Reginald Braithwaite: https://leanpub.com/javascript-spessore https://leanpub.com/javascript-spessore
  - raganwald 13y ago
    Thank you, although please note that "JavaScript Spessore" is (a) a work-in-progress, and (b) about "Thinking in objects" more than "The idiomatic way to program in JavaScript.
ldarcyftw 13y ago
> js is here to stay. It's the language of the web In the same manner as assembler is here to stay. Assembler is "the language of the computer". Not that many people write assembler these days though, majority moved on to languages more suited to their needs.

viach 13y ago

Did you just mean Java 7?

Trufa 13y ago

You got the metaphor wrong. "Hey, look, this is Jenna. You'll have to work with her for the next 10 years. She's hard to figure out and grumpy at times, but if you treat her right she'll play along. Actually if you get to know her, she can be a great asset."

pekk 13y ago
Please stop blaming users. If Jenna is a royal pain in the ass by design, her being a pain in the ass isn't the user's fault for not "treating her right." Whether it is an asset to work around her crap or not. There's all kinds of things which are an asset to know but are a huge pain in the ass to work with, and somehow we are allowed to complain about most of those but god help the man who complains about Jenna in public. She's connected.
- raganwald 13y ago
  Paul Graham once said, "Where there's muck, there's brass." He explained that there is often an opportunity to be had if you dive deep down into ugly, unpleasant things and find a way to make them work.
  - CmonDev 13y ago
    http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/408900.html http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/408900.html "Don’t make idols for yourselves" is another old expression.

sgon00 13y ago

“Everything that can be written in JavaScript will eventually be written in JavaScript”. – Atwood’s law "Everything’s Gone JavaScript" "The future is written in Javascript" JavaScript is now an integral part of several operating systems. JavaScript is also moving quickly into the hardware world.