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I create fully fledged JS apps on a big scale, the difference from this test to reality is startling. The difference is I enforce the use of the closure compile

by lennel 13y ago

I create fully fledged JS apps on a big scale, the difference from this test to reality is startling. The difference is I enforce the use of the closure compiler in our team so 99% of these issues are caught by the compiler. end of story. this test is bullshit.

Pacabel 13y ago
What exactly do you mean by "fully fledged JS apps on a big scale"? When it comes to more traditional languages like C, C++ and Java, "fully fledged" and "big scale" are descriptors usually reserved for multi-million line systems consistently worked on by 50+ full-time developers at a time. I'm very suspicious of such terminology being applied to JavaScript applications. We generally see a much, much smaller scale when it comes to those. The "high end" cases are usually topping out at 100,000 to 200,000 lines of code at most, and perhaps 10 or 20 developers. They're a far cry from the C, C++, Java and C# examples. Is any of this code you've worked on publicly available?
- deleted 13y ago
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- lennel 13y ago
  i mean teams of 20-25 people, working with millions of lines of code over all the modules, that has to be regressed the whole time. Big for the tech stack it is. This is not counting our bucketloads of java and scala code as well.
wil421 13y ago
What benefits do JS apps have over a server-side language such as Java, C# or Ruby? Especially in an enterprise environment. In most of my limited experience JS has been harder to work with than almost anything I have encountered. My personal experience using JS client side apps has left me feeling sour. Every time I visit a webpage and immediately hit a JS loading screen I cringe. Gmail is about the only I dont completely dislike that I know is written in JS.
- TheZenPsycho 13y ago
  response time. http://www.nngroup.com/articles/response-times-3-important-limits/ http://www.nngroup.com/articles/response-times-3-important-l...
- lennel 13y ago
  we use java to render our templates on the server side. https://developers.google.com/closure/templates/ https://developers.google.com/closure/templates/ And yes response times, it makes a massive massive difference in perceived responses. Our stack is the same stack which gmail uses (we use the full closure suite so compiler, templates, stylesheets, linter and library)

by lennel 13y ago

Pacabel 13y ago

What exactly do you mean by "fully fledged JS apps on a big scale"? When it comes to more traditional languages like C, C++ and Java, "fully fledged" and "big scale" are descriptors usually reserved for multi-million line systems consistently worked on by 50+ full-time developers at a time. I'm very suspicious of such terminology being applied to JavaScript applications. We generally see a much, much smaller scale when it comes to those. The "high end" cases are usually topping out at 100,000 to 200,000 lines of code at most, and perhaps 10 or 20 developers. They're a far cry from the C, C++, Java and C# examples. Is any of this code you've worked on publicly available?

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lennel 13y ago
i mean teams of 20-25 people, working with millions of lines of code over all the modules, that has to be regressed the whole time. Big for the tech stack it is. This is not counting our bucketloads of java and scala code as well.

wil421 13y ago

What benefits do JS apps have over a server-side language such as Java, C# or Ruby? Especially in an enterprise environment. In most of my limited experience JS has been harder to work with than almost anything I have encountered. My personal experience using JS client side apps has left me feeling sour. Every time I visit a webpage and immediately hit a JS loading screen I cringe. Gmail is about the only I dont completely dislike that I know is written in JS.

TheZenPsycho 13y ago
response time. http://www.nngroup.com/articles/response-times-3-important-limits/ http://www.nngroup.com/articles/response-times-3-important-l...
lennel 13y ago
we use java to render our templates on the server side. https://developers.google.com/closure/templates/ https://developers.google.com/closure/templates/ And yes response times, it makes a massive massive difference in perceived responses. Our stack is the same stack which gmail uses (we use the full closure suite so compiler, templates, stylesheets, linter and library)