Okay, fair enough, there are different kinds of success. But I don't know that Larry Wall or Rasmus Lerdorf would have predicted, in the early days of Perl and

Okay, fair enough, there are different kinds of success. But I don't know that Larry Wall or Rasmus Lerdorf would have predicted, in the early days of Perl and PHP respectively, that their languages would wind up being used for large systems -- and yet, they have been. This is the point I was trying to make.