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I believe that the underlying emotional motives behind the protests in the San Francisco are the same underlying emotional motives behind the Holocaust. What.
by michaelochurch 13y ago
I believe that the underlying emotional motives behind the protests in the San Francisco are the same underlying emotional motives behind the Holocaust.
What. The. Fucking. Fuck. You could not be more offensively wrong on this one.
In both cases, you have people worried that their fundamental economic survival is threatened, unaware of why it's threatened or what to do about it, and looking for a scapegoat (techies in SF, Jews in the Holocaust) to blame for it.
No. What fueled the Holocaust was not economic anxiety. That probably drove the acceptance of political extremism in general. But behind the Holocaust was a belief that some races were immutably inferior and should be extinguished in the (abused) name of "eugenics".
Before Hitler, Germany wasn't any worse in terms of racism than other European societies. There were respected and prominent people in the U.S. and Great Britain with the same disgusting views. Still, you cannot seriously argue that what turned mid-century Germany into a mass murder machine was economic anxiety. It was racism.
"Techies" (I fucking hate that word) are not a race.
Take a "techie" out of the Valley and confiscate his Google Glass and he's just a computer programmer and no one has a problem with him. Move him to a city without a dysfunctional housing market (say, to Austin or Portland) and he's likely quite welcome. On the other hand, being ethnically Jewish is not something a person can change.
No one hates "the rich" as some immutable class. Aside from criminals (who are motivated by greed, not hatred) virtually no one targets anyone for violence because he is rich. What people are reacting to is behavior-- often, really shitty behavior that even most people in tech despise. Behavior, unlike bloodlines, can be changed.
"Techies" are being asked to stop being assholes. Jews in Nazi Germany, on the other hand, had armed men coming to kill them, and if they tried to escape or hide in attics, the people who assisted them were also killed.
No comparison.
- melindajb 13y agothanks for saving me the time of writing this reply. I'd add that billionaires are not being prevented from marrying non billionaires, nor are they being forced to walk around with patches signifying their possession of an attribute <i>that cannot be changed</i>. To that end, no one's suggesting we create forced work camps where billionaires are put to death. No, what people want is a fairer system. And people like Tom Perkins and this poster can't seem to separate the two. For such smart people, some of the people on hacker news are just stupid. For the last time, the analogy doesn't work, it's inappropriate, and those who persist in this line of thinking really should have their heads examined.
- michaelochurch 13y agoFor such smart people, some of the people on hacker news are just stupid. I prefer the term that came back into vogue when the Tea Party started up: useful idiots. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Useful_idiot http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Useful_idiot