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This has nothing to do with production mode. The development experience is unacceptable with runserver in development mode. I have a trivial app with half a do

This has nothing to do with production mode. The development experience is unacceptable with runserver in development mode. I have a trivial app with half a dozen apps and it takes 5 seconds to reload runserver when I touch a view file. On the same hardware a ~6k SLOCs rails project with 40 gems reloads pretty much instantly because the rails dev server is smart enough to do code swapping. Edit: runserver_plus does nothing to make runserver reload faster, it is an improved stack trace with a built in debugger. Since I am already using django-extensions I tried runserver_plus and it added 2 full seconds to each reload. So now it takes 7 seconds just for runserver_plus to reload after touching a view.

rbanffy 13y ago
If you consider the development experience to be unacceptable, then use something else.
hexsprite 13y ago
Why don't you try using Python's profiling tools and file a bug report with what you find? That might get you a better response than asking on IRC.
- antelopesalad 13y ago
  I don't have the time to audit and analyze the entire django framework and every third party app I touch. I am only using a few apps too that are popular in the community. Realistically I'm a web app developer who wants to be productive. It's insane that I need to even consider doing that just to not have to wait 5 seconds for runserver to reload in development mode on a trivial app. It should be on the shoulders of the django core team to make sure their platform makes developers happy. P.S., if you want to give me $100,000 I will quit my job and spend the next half a decade learning advanced python, audit the entire django code. You would probably laugh and call me insane right, but this seems like what the django core devs are forcing us to do because they don't want to address the problems with the framework.
joshlegs 13y ago
idk what you're working on, but i'm currently working on a ~100mb app. It's pretty big, and i've never had anything like what you're talking about. are you sure it's not hardware related?

rbanffy 13y ago

If you consider the development experience to be unacceptable, then use something else.

hexsprite 13y ago

Why don't you try using Python's profiling tools and file a bug report with what you find? That might get you a better response than asking on IRC.

antelopesalad 13y ago
I don't have the time to audit and analyze the entire django framework and every third party app I touch. I am only using a few apps too that are popular in the community. Realistically I'm a web app developer who wants to be productive. It's insane that I need to even consider doing that just to not have to wait 5 seconds for runserver to reload in development mode on a trivial app. It should be on the shoulders of the django core team to make sure their platform makes developers happy. P.S., if you want to give me $100,000 I will quit my job and spend the next half a decade learning advanced python, audit the entire django code. You would probably laugh and call me insane right, but this seems like what the django core devs are forcing us to do because they don't want to address the problems with the framework.

joshlegs 13y ago

idk what you're working on, but i'm currently working on a ~100mb app. It's pretty big, and i've never had anything like what you're talking about. are you sure it's not hardware related?