3 ms·

I sincerely hope you never deploy a system then. Not trying to attack you, but I don't want anyone to get the wrong idea. Deploying servers is not as easy as yo

by Xorlev 13y ago

I sincerely hope you never deploy a system then. Not trying to attack you, but I don't want anyone to get the wrong idea. Deploying servers is not as easy as you make it out to be. If you have the dough to hire 2-3 people to run your servers, you can afford to do it right. I would never roll with a FiOS line to run my services, for one I doubt their TOS supports it. I'm not sure anything but the smallest of startups could pull that off, and even then they'd be better served spinning up a few droplets on DO. If you have a 'moderately large' AWS configuration, you need a corresponding 'moderately large' DC deployment with plans for redundant network links and redundant power. I can't express the importance of that: anything you run that you care about needs to be in a controlled, monitored environment. Not a home-rolled franken-rack powered by a single non-symmetric line without an SLA. Not to mention proper fire suppression.

bane 13y ago
FiOS business lines explicitly exist to allow companies to run their own servers and most good companies that self-host build their own hardware. It's not a "franken-rack" (clever term), it's pretty common industry practice (google even builds their own server hardware). That's why you hire 2 or 3 guys who know what they are doing. Hell, I barely know what I'm doing and I've probably helped cobble together half a dozen such setups over the years. In some industries, designating some office space for your "server room" and building it out to data center specs is pretty common and surprisingly not all that expensive. I'm surprised by both that lack of can-do attitude here on HN as well as the basic know-how about it. I guess the demographic here skews towards young-hip-cloud-framework-I-don't-know-how-to-do-anything-for-myself-everything. But it wasn't all that long ago that buying some empty 1u and 2u cases, and sources parts from the local hardware shop, installing them in racks that you bolted to the floor of your server room, that you fitted out with redundant backbones, industrial a/c and enough amperage to blow out the transformer down the street was what people actually did and it's not that hard. Hell, one of the points of RAID was to enable companies trying to save a buck on such setups to exist in the face of very expensive enterprise class hardware disk options. (edit) and this is exactly what they did https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7155165 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7155165

by Xorlev 13y ago

bane 13y ago

FiOS business lines explicitly exist to allow companies to run their own servers and most good companies that self-host build their own hardware. It's not a "franken-rack" (clever term), it's pretty common industry practice (google even builds their own server hardware). That's why you hire 2 or 3 guys who know what they are doing. Hell, I barely know what I'm doing and I've probably helped cobble together half a dozen such setups over the years. In some industries, designating some office space for your "server room" and building it out to data center specs is pretty common and surprisingly not all that expensive. I'm surprised by both that lack of can-do attitude here on HN as well as the basic know-how about it. I guess the demographic here skews towards young-hip-cloud-framework-I-don't-know-how-to-do-anything-for-myself-everything. But it wasn't all that long ago that buying some empty 1u and 2u cases, and sources parts from the local hardware shop, installing them in racks that you bolted to the floor of your server room, that you fitted out with redundant backbones, industrial a/c and enough amperage to blow out the transformer down the street was what people actually did and it's not that hard. Hell, one of the points of RAID was to enable companies trying to save a buck on such setups to exist in the face of very expensive enterprise class hardware disk options. (edit) and this is exactly what they did https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7155165 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7155165