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The DEA never made any claims that it WAS harmful. They provide no evidence for this. All they claim is that it has "no medical uses" and use this to justify ma

The DEA never made any claims that it WAS harmful. They provide no evidence for this. All they claim is that it has "no medical uses" and use this to justify making it a controlled/illegal substance. Alcohol, however, is the worst drug you could do other than methamphetamine. It is quite literally a poison. It is impossible to overdose on THC. How many other drugs, legal or illegal, can the same be said for?

inklesspen 19y ago
Overdose is not the only factor to consider. What about cancer? Birth defects if a pregnant woman uses it? Neurological effects? These are the things that a scientific drug test is designed to discover. Without a properly designed scientific test, you cannot claim there are no harmful long-term effects. You simply don't know.
- ingenium 19y ago
  I think it's assumed by this point that a pregnant woman should not take any drug while pregnant. You would have to be an idiot to even think otherwise. We do know that there are no long term effects, at least not those that the FDA would discover during their test. Kratom has been used for centuries in Southeast Asia. If it was causing serious harmful long-term effects, these people would have figured it out by now.
  - curi 19y ago
    That's not true at all, they could very easily use something harmful for centuries and not figure it out. That's what science is for: without it, it's extraordinarily easy to fool yourself, or not notice things.
  - drmed 19y ago
    > I think it's assumed by this point that a pregnant woman should not take any drug while pregnant. You would have to be an idiot to even think otherwise. No, you are the idiot. Of course women take drugs while they are pregnant. > We do know that there are no long term effects, at least not those that the FDA would discover during their test. How do you know this, if it was never tested? > Kratom has been used for centuries in Southeast Asia. If it was causing serious harmful long-term effects, these people would have figured it out by now. Oh, yeah, that's proof alright. Why not send this to Lancet while you are at it. Dude, shut up.
    - rms 19y ago
      Personal attacks make everyone look dumber.
      - drmed 19y ago
        Especially you. Besides, this post was a reply to Ingenium (who seems to have picked the wrong handle).
        rms 19y ago
        Believe me, I'm used to it by now. You sound really miserable, have you considered anti-depressants?
        drmed 19y ago
        Consider that you are making people miserable with the drugs your trying to peddle. I'll feel better when I can put folks like you out of business.
        curi 19y ago
        Don't feed the trolls.

inklesspen 19y ago

Overdose is not the only factor to consider. What about cancer? Birth defects if a pregnant woman uses it? Neurological effects? These are the things that a scientific drug test is designed to discover. Without a properly designed scientific test, you cannot claim there are no harmful long-term effects. You simply don't know.

ingenium 19y ago
I think it's assumed by this point that a pregnant woman should not take any drug while pregnant. You would have to be an idiot to even think otherwise. We do know that there are no long term effects, at least not those that the FDA would discover during their test. Kratom has been used for centuries in Southeast Asia. If it was causing serious harmful long-term effects, these people would have figured it out by now.
- curi 19y ago
  That's not true at all, they could very easily use something harmful for centuries and not figure it out. That's what science is for: without it, it's extraordinarily easy to fool yourself, or not notice things.
- drmed 19y ago
  > I think it's assumed by this point that a pregnant woman should not take any drug while pregnant. You would have to be an idiot to even think otherwise. No, you are the idiot. Of course women take drugs while they are pregnant. > We do know that there are no long term effects, at least not those that the FDA would discover during their test. How do you know this, if it was never tested? > Kratom has been used for centuries in Southeast Asia. If it was causing serious harmful long-term effects, these people would have figured it out by now. Oh, yeah, that's proof alright. Why not send this to Lancet while you are at it. Dude, shut up.
  - rms 19y ago
    Personal attacks make everyone look dumber.
    - drmed 19y ago
      Especially you. Besides, this post was a reply to Ingenium (who seems to have picked the wrong handle).
      - rms 19y ago
        Believe me, I'm used to it by now. You sound really miserable, have you considered anti-depressants?
        drmed 19y ago
        Consider that you are making people miserable with the drugs your trying to peddle. I'll feel better when I can put folks like you out of business.
        curi 19y ago
        Don't feed the trolls.