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and what uncrappy web apps has this guy made? according to his twitter page he has a company that is "a digital word of mouth agency", "a social technology bui

by there 17y ago

and what uncrappy web apps has this guy made? according to his twitter page he has a company that is "a digital word of mouth agency", "a social technology builder", "a social media marketing practitioner", "an experimental marketing producer", "a content creation machine", and "an idea foundry" so he doesn't really make anything, he just markets what other people make?

sophacles 17y ago
I don't need to be a chef to know someone's cooking sucks. I don't need to a writer to know hack writing. Why does this guy need to be a programmer to know crappy webapps? Further why does his marketing mean that he can't have observed and lived the "do what you love and the rest will follow" message he presents?
- jpwagner 17y ago
  You may not need to be a chef to know someone's cooking sucks, but you sure as hell better be a chef if you're going to lecture to a bunch of chefs about cooking.
  - sophacles 17y ago
    I call bs. Sure, the chef needs to go listen to other chefs about cooking, technique, ingredients, whatever. But I bet that same chef can go to non-chefs about things like book keeping, marketing, what customers want, etc. Further, plenty of restaurant owners, restaurant workers, restaurant enthusiasts and/or people who eat can totally get up in front of a chef and say: hey stop making crappy food no one wants it. Or even "this food that you are all making used to be trendy and clever, but now that everyone is doing it, its just sucky and boring. Here is something cool instead". Bringing the analogy back around, it is pretty arrogant for developers to think that the only person that can speak about the end product is another developer. Sure, I wouldn't listen to a marketer about what framework to use, but I sure would when it comes to declaring aggregators old-hat and sucky.
    - sophacles 17y ago
      Can someone explain to me why this comment was modded to -1?

by there 17y ago

sophacles 17y ago

I don't need to be a chef to know someone's cooking sucks. I don't need to a writer to know hack writing. Why does this guy need to be a programmer to know crappy webapps? Further why does his marketing mean that he can't have observed and lived the "do what you love and the rest will follow" message he presents?

jpwagner 17y ago
You may not need to be a chef to know someone's cooking sucks, but you sure as hell better be a chef if you're going to lecture to a bunch of chefs about cooking.
- sophacles 17y ago
  I call bs. Sure, the chef needs to go listen to other chefs about cooking, technique, ingredients, whatever. But I bet that same chef can go to non-chefs about things like book keeping, marketing, what customers want, etc. Further, plenty of restaurant owners, restaurant workers, restaurant enthusiasts and/or people who eat can totally get up in front of a chef and say: hey stop making crappy food no one wants it. Or even "this food that you are all making used to be trendy and clever, but now that everyone is doing it, its just sucky and boring. Here is something cool instead". Bringing the analogy back around, it is pretty arrogant for developers to think that the only person that can speak about the end product is another developer. Sure, I wouldn't listen to a marketer about what framework to use, but I sure would when it comes to declaring aggregators old-hat and sucky.
  - sophacles 17y ago
    Can someone explain to me why this comment was modded to -1?