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Some may find the list of people who can nominate someone for the Nobel peace prize interesting. From their website: Members of national assemblies and govern

by Lazare 13y ago

Some may find the list of people who can nominate someone for the Nobel peace prize interesting. From their website: Members of national assemblies and governments of states; Members of international courts; University rectors; professors of social sciences, history, philosophy, law and theology; directors of peace research institutes and foreign policy institutes; Persons who have been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize; Board members of organizations that have been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize; Active and former members of the Norwegian Nobel Committee; Former advisers to the Norwegian Nobel Committee Most of those are fairly small groups; but "Members of national assemblies and governments of states" is a pretty big chunk of people, and "professors of social sciences, history, philosophy, law and theology" is a simply enormous group of people. As a result, nominations are very meaningless; any third rate history or sociology prof at some podunk community college can nominate someone if they have a mind to, and all sorts of people get nominated, often as a lark or to prove a point. I believe Bush was nominated repeatedly, for example. (Well...nominations are secret, but I know of people who have the ability to nominate, and claimed to have done so, and I don't see why they'd bother to lie, so...) So yes, Snowden was nominated (well, unless these politicians are lying). Honestly, he was probably nominated dozens of times. This isn't news. Also, a couple of left-wing Norwegian politicians like Snowden. Also not news. :) The only real news here is if he wins...

belorn 13y ago
> "professors of social sciences, history, philosophy, law and theology" is a simply enormous group of people. It used to be that professor status was very regulated. In Sweden prior to 1993, a professor title was granted by the government, and in practice one could only become a professor if such role was currently unfilled. Was the Noble price nomination rules created before 1993?
- Lazare 13y ago
  The rules actually were relaxed in 1993; I'm not sure what they were before that.
- _delirium 13y ago
  It's a bit unclear in English nowadays, because in Scandinavian-written academic English, 'professor' sometimes refers only to the formal title Professor, which corresponds to what Americans sometimes call "Full Professor", but in other usages it includes a broader set of faculty. For example the three academic titles in Danish are Professor, Lektor, and Adjunkt, but in recent years their official English translations are Full Professor, Associate Professor, and Assistant Professor, which better reflects how the roles have evolved in practice. So are the latter two included under the term "professors" when a Danish institution writes something in English? Sometimes yes, sometimes no...
plq 13y ago
> The only real news here is if he wins... Nitpicking a bit maybe, but he obviously can't win without being nominated. So this is still news.
- d23 13y ago
  Unless... > he was probably nominated dozens of times.
- Lazare 13y ago
  Kinda, but I think it was really obvious that he'd be nominated. There's hundreds of nominations every year; Manning has been nominated repeatedly times, Assange has been nominated. Now Snowden's in the news; what were the odds some politician somewhere wouldn't take the opportunity to get some easy headlines by nominating Snowden? I can't imagine him not getting a few nominations. :)
- calibwam 13y ago
  The Nobel Committee will consider any nominee, but it may also consider other entities that it seem fit. So in a way, you don't have to be nominated.
nivla 13y ago
> I believe Bush was nominated repeatedly. Ha even bizzaring, Adolf Hitler was once nominated. [1] [1] http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/facts/peace/ http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/facts/peace/
- valarauca1 13y ago
  Hitler was TIME magazine man of year, and for a decent while in America Fascism was mildly popular (circa 1930's). Its strange looking back on a that time (Post Holocaust and WW2). American Newspapers applauded the works of fascists claiming, "They got the trains to run on time."
  - kaffeinecoma 13y ago
    Being Man of the Year isn't necessarily an honor. From Wikipedia: Person of the Year (formerly Man of the Year) is an annual issue of the United States newsmagazine Time that features and profiles a person, group, idea or object that "for better or for worse...has done the most to influence the events of the year."
    - dharmach 13y ago
      2001 title should have gone to OBL then.
      - dublinben 13y ago
        Yes, it should have. Time Magazine didn't have the audacity to, and settled for Giuliani.
      - pfarrell 13y ago
        "Though we spent hours debating the pros and cons of naming Osama bin Laden, it ultimately became easy to dismiss him," said managing editor Jim Kelly. "He is not a larger-than-life figure with broad historical sweep ... he is smaller than life, a garden-variety terrorist whose evil plan succeeded beyond his highest hopes." They chose Giuliani instead. http://edition.cnn.com/2001/US/12/23/giuliani.time/ http://edition.cnn.com/2001/US/12/23/giuliani.time/
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by Lazare 13y ago

belorn 13y ago

> "professors of social sciences, history, philosophy, law and theology" is a simply enormous group of people. It used to be that professor status was very regulated. In Sweden prior to 1993, a professor title was granted by the government, and in practice one could only become a professor if such role was currently unfilled. Was the Noble price nomination rules created before 1993?

Lazare 13y ago
The rules actually were relaxed in 1993; I'm not sure what they were before that.
_delirium 13y ago
It's a bit unclear in English nowadays, because in Scandinavian-written academic English, 'professor' sometimes refers only to the formal title Professor, which corresponds to what Americans sometimes call "Full Professor", but in other usages it includes a broader set of faculty. For example the three academic titles in Danish are Professor, Lektor, and Adjunkt, but in recent years their official English translations are Full Professor, Associate Professor, and Assistant Professor, which better reflects how the roles have evolved in practice. So are the latter two included under the term "professors" when a Danish institution writes something in English? Sometimes yes, sometimes no...

plq 13y ago

> The only real news here is if he wins... Nitpicking a bit maybe, but he obviously can't win without being nominated. So this is still news.

d23 13y ago
Unless... > he was probably nominated dozens of times.
Lazare 13y ago
Kinda, but I think it was really obvious that he'd be nominated. There's hundreds of nominations every year; Manning has been nominated repeatedly times, Assange has been nominated. Now Snowden's in the news; what were the odds some politician somewhere wouldn't take the opportunity to get some easy headlines by nominating Snowden? I can't imagine him not getting a few nominations. :)
calibwam 13y ago
The Nobel Committee will consider any nominee, but it may also consider other entities that it seem fit. So in a way, you don't have to be nominated.

nivla 13y ago

> I believe Bush was nominated repeatedly. Ha even bizzaring, Adolf Hitler was once nominated. [1] [1] http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/facts/peace/ http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/facts/peace/

valarauca1 13y ago
Hitler was TIME magazine man of year, and for a decent while in America Fascism was mildly popular (circa 1930's). Its strange looking back on a that time (Post Holocaust and WW2). American Newspapers applauded the works of fascists claiming, "They got the trains to run on time."
- kaffeinecoma 13y ago
  Being Man of the Year isn't necessarily an honor. From Wikipedia: Person of the Year (formerly Man of the Year) is an annual issue of the United States newsmagazine Time that features and profiles a person, group, idea or object that "for better or for worse...has done the most to influence the events of the year."
  - dharmach 13y ago
    2001 title should have gone to OBL then.
    - dublinben 13y ago
      Yes, it should have. Time Magazine didn't have the audacity to, and settled for Giuliani.
    - pfarrell 13y ago
      "Though we spent hours debating the pros and cons of naming Osama bin Laden, it ultimately became easy to dismiss him," said managing editor Jim Kelly. "He is not a larger-than-life figure with broad historical sweep ... he is smaller than life, a garden-variety terrorist whose evil plan succeeded beyond his highest hopes." They chose Giuliani instead. http://edition.cnn.com/2001/US/12/23/giuliani.time/ http://edition.cnn.com/2001/US/12/23/giuliani.time/

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