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Opiates are controlled substances in most cases. You, my friend, are full of shit and have no idea what you are talking about.

by drmed 19y ago

rms 19y ago
So you are saying kratom is a controlled substance? It is not, except in Thailand, Burma, Malaysia, and Australia. While it is a neurological opiate, it is chemically very different from poppy-derived opiates.
- drmed 19y ago
  You wrote: > Disclaimer: Kratom can cause nausea, itching, and constipation, just like other opiates. Like other opiates, it can seriously potentiate other pharmaceuticals and you should ask your doctor if kratom is right for you. So you are insinuating, that Kratom is an opiate of some kind. As a matter of fact, it's a plant and contains many known and unknown substances. And no doctor will have an opinion about Kratom (I certainly don't) and would describe this shit to a patient. > So you are saying kratom is a controlled substance? No, please read. > It is not, except in Thailand, Burma, Malaysia, and Australia. So it is. If this is a controlled substance in Australia, it certainly will be everywhere else if it catches on. Someone ban this guy.
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  - ingenium 19y ago
    >So you are insinuating, that Kratom is an opiate of some kind. As a matter of fact, it's a plant and contains many known and unknown substances. And you are wrong. It most certainly is. Chemical analysis of kratom shows that it contains 7-hydroxymitragynine, which is in fact an opiate several times stronger than morphine.
    - drmed 19y ago
      >> So you are insinuating, that Kratom is an opiate of some kind. As a matter of fact, it's a plant and contains many known and unknown substances. > And you are wrong. It most certainly is. Kratom is a plant, not a compound. You don't seem to know the difference. Plants, Mitragyna speciosa in this case, are full of different compounds. One of them is 7-hydroxymitragynine which has agonistic effects on the mu-opiod receptors. So what? There are many such substances, but one animal test paper does not make this a drug safe for human consumption. God knows what nasty side effects is has. > Chemical analysis of kratom shows that it contains 7-hydroxymitragynine, which is in fact an opiate several times stronger than morphine. See above. Moreover, what's the actual concentration of 7-hydroxymitragynine in the plant leaves? Probably minute, otherwise this stuff would have been banned all along. So, you are selling a product, of which you claim not for human consumption but use as incense, and then go telling everyone it contains some opioid substance? So much for truth in 'incense' advertising.

Opiates are controlled substances in most cases. You, my friend, are full of shit and have no idea what you are talking about.

by drmed 19y ago

Opiates are controlled substances in most cases. You, my friend, are full of shit and have no idea what you are talking about.

rms 19y ago

So you are saying kratom is a controlled substance? It is not, except in Thailand, Burma, Malaysia, and Australia. While it is a neurological opiate, it is chemically very different from poppy-derived opiates.

drmed 19y ago
You wrote: > Disclaimer: Kratom can cause nausea, itching, and constipation, just like other opiates. Like other opiates, it can seriously potentiate other pharmaceuticals and you should ask your doctor if kratom is right for you. So you are insinuating, that Kratom is an opiate of some kind. As a matter of fact, it's a plant and contains many known and unknown substances. And no doctor will have an opinion about Kratom (I certainly don't) and would describe this shit to a patient. > So you are saying kratom is a controlled substance? No, please read. > It is not, except in Thailand, Burma, Malaysia, and Australia. So it is. If this is a controlled substance in Australia, it certainly will be everywhere else if it catches on. Someone ban this guy.
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- ingenium 19y ago
  >So you are insinuating, that Kratom is an opiate of some kind. As a matter of fact, it's a plant and contains many known and unknown substances. And you are wrong. It most certainly is. Chemical analysis of kratom shows that it contains 7-hydroxymitragynine, which is in fact an opiate several times stronger than morphine.
  - drmed 19y ago
    >> So you are insinuating, that Kratom is an opiate of some kind. As a matter of fact, it's a plant and contains many known and unknown substances. > And you are wrong. It most certainly is. Kratom is a plant, not a compound. You don't seem to know the difference. Plants, Mitragyna speciosa in this case, are full of different compounds. One of them is 7-hydroxymitragynine which has agonistic effects on the mu-opiod receptors. So what? There are many such substances, but one animal test paper does not make this a drug safe for human consumption. God knows what nasty side effects is has. > Chemical analysis of kratom shows that it contains 7-hydroxymitragynine, which is in fact an opiate several times stronger than morphine. See above. Moreover, what's the actual concentration of 7-hydroxymitragynine in the plant leaves? Probably minute, otherwise this stuff would have been banned all along. So, you are selling a product, of which you claim not for human consumption but use as incense, and then go telling everyone it contains some opioid substance? So much for truth in 'incense' advertising.