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Let's say a large portion of people do think that it is unfair that they do not have the same amount of wealth as other, smaller group of people. Would you cons
by jedmeyers 13y ago
Let's say a large portion of people do think that it is unfair that they do not have the same amount of wealth as other, smaller group of people. Would you consider it to be acceptable for the larger group to appropriate smaller group's wealth using that premise?
- scarmig 13y agoFalse frame. Wealth--meaning a state-granted monopoly to some amount of capital, and a government promise to perform violence on anyone who disregards that monopoly--is a social contract. People are only talking about renegotiating the exact terms of that contract.
- baddox 13y agoWealth/property/capital can definitely exist without a government promise to perform violence on violators.
- scarmig 13y agoIt definitely can and should, but it looks very different from the way it looks with a government present to perform violence on violators. And even what counts as a violation is very different with a government than without. That's the point--and if it didn't, there'd be no reason to add in the extra administrative costs of government to get the same results. And to be clear: government enforcement of property through violence provides plenty of social value, but those reformulated property rights are socially defined and subject to change, and not natural in any sense.
- baddox 13y ago> Would you consider it to be acceptable for the larger group to appropriate smaller group's wealth using that premise? Personally, I don't like it, although I don't claim to be privy to any objective notion of morality.