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People are staring to really scrape the bottom of barrel of things to be upset about.
by mason240 13y ago
People are staring to really scrape the bottom of barrel of things to be upset about.
- yid 13y agoNobody seems upset. This is about professionalism.
- pohl 13y agoI wouldn't say that it has anything to do with the competence or skill expected of a professional. It's more a matter of decorum. Edit: I recognize that there are those who would like to load more connotations onto the term, but I think that even the above definition is just a bunch of marketing fluff promulgated by those who stand to benefit from people believing that they'll get a better result from paying someone to do something rather than doing it themselves.
- zxcdw 13y agoProfessionalism is much more than competence and/or skill, just like good sports is about good sportsmanship too.
- BlackDeath3 13y agoPerhaps it would be better for everybody if "professionalism" focused more on competence and skill, and less on politically-correct bullshit.
- to3m 13y agoProfessionalism encompasses the whole lot. And I believe the presence of GTFO is not especially professional. It's spoiling for a fight, basically. And it got one, and it will lose. Pathetic, really. (I really wanted to close with a saying along the lines of "one man's politically-correct bullshit is another person's basic standard of human decency", but I saw somebody say this - or something very much like it - once on HN, and it was followed up by a comment from somebody complaining that this level of politically-correct nonsense was infringing on his fundamental immutable human right not to be implicitly compared to something inhuman. Which I suppose is fair enough. And I certainly wouldn't want anybody to feel oppressed.)
- BlackDeath3 13y agoIs spoiling for a fight necessarily a bad thing? As far as your saying goes - fair enough. The problem with total freedom, however, is that it's sort of an idealism. Now, I'm an idealistic kind of guy, but I realize that the idea is contradictory. Your freedom to feel "decent" infringes upon my freedom to drop my favorite dirty words in front of you, and vice-versa (though personally I don't give a fuck about being "made to feel inhuman"). So, what do we do?
- xutopia 13y agoProfessionalism requires some decorum. Imagine if doctors called the release form the GTFO papers. If we want respect in our profession we have to stop acting like all we care about is pizza, red bull and acting like little teenagers.
- redblacktree 13y agoI'm not sure I'm willing to make the trade.
- Crito 13y agoIs something actually offensive or profane if nobody actually cares? Excluding people who "care on the behalf of people who might care" ("we shouldn't do this, not because it offends me, but because it may offend others"), is anybody actually bothered by the word "fuck"? Well I mean, also excluding isolated religious communities in Lancaster county that still use minced oaths....
- mcantelon 13y agoWe should get rid of HTTP status 418 as well. It is humorous and humor is unprofessional. /s
- throaway77789 13y agoWelcome to HackerNews
- crystaln 13y agoDoesn't seem like anyone is so much upset as advocating for a reasonable change to remove an unnecessarily crass and unfunny joke from a standard.
- elwell 13y agoHe probably just wanted to be listed on GitHub as a 'Contributor' to the http 2 spec.
- elwell 13y agoThough, I must admit guilt in this as well; that time I 'contributed' to CoffeeScript by fixing an ascii art inconsistency in the cup of coffee's water vapor in the README: https://github.com/jashkenas/coffee-script/pull/3193 https://github.com/jashkenas/coffee-script/pull/3193
- ToastyMallows 13y agoBut now it can go on your resume!
- jacalata 13y agoIs anyone actually upset by this change? If so, I agree, but I don't really see anyone saying they are, kind of sounds like a straw man.