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It's for your job prospects that you avoid off color jokes? Not the comedic banality or actual disgust with sexism?

by thwest 13y ago

GhotiFish 13y ago
Well. Already I'm in dangerous territory now arn't I? but let me be candid: >it's for your job prospects that you avoid off color jokes? yes. >Not the comedic banality no. >or actual disgust with sexism? no. I'm not a crusader, nor am I a paragon of morality. I would suggest to you, that such personally held traits are dangerous.
__pThrow 13y ago
What do off color jokes have to do with sexism? As an example, the dongle joke had nothing to do with sexism. I am not trying to shame you but have you ever been around groups of women as they work or play? Off color jokes are typical of the species homo sapiens in 2014.
- theorique 13y ago
  Well, the dongle joke was kind of a play on the word "dong" as euphemism for penis. So it had some vague allusion to sexual content, but you're absolutely right that it had nothing to do with sexism. The real sexists are the people - including the distinguished Miss Richards who initially reported the joke - who presume that women are such delicate little flowers that they can't exist in an environment for adults, where people occasionally make jokes that are unsuitable for kindergarten kids. (i.e. I quite agree with you!)
Crito 13y ago
The "comedic banality" nonsense is tiring. At least you also said what you really mean, that the sexism is problematic, but far too often I have seen people pretend that their issue with a offensive/bigoted/problematic joke is that it is not funny or cliche^. Let's be honest here, that is not actually what bothers people. We only hear those objections when there is something else wrong with the joke; nobody objects to non-offensive unfunny jokes. Groan perhaps, but not object. ^ Usually this manifests as something like "it's not even that it is offensive, the joke is just _lazy_"
- thwest 13y ago
  There's no accounting for taste I suppose. I'll happily wade through a mountain of bad puns, but scatology and sexual dimorphism jokes are just wearisome.
  - Crito 13y ago
    > "scatology and sexual dimorphism jokes are just wearisome." Right, but that is not because they are unimaginative or cliched (evidenced by you being able to wade through mountains of bad puns). It is because they are scatological or sexist.
- illuminate 13y ago
  "The "comedic banality" nonsense is tiring." I like dick jokes as much as the next person, but they have to be funny. It's not as "shocking" as you think. It's cliche.

It's for your job prospects that you avoid off color jokes? Not the comedic banality or actual disgust with sexism?

by thwest 13y ago

It's for your job prospects that you avoid off color jokes? Not the comedic banality or actual disgust with sexism?

Well. Already I'm in dangerous territory now arn't I? but let me be candid: >it's for your job prospects that you avoid off color jokes? yes. >Not the comedic banality no. >or actual disgust with sexism? no. I'm not a crusader, nor am I a paragon of morality. I would suggest to you, that such personally held traits are dangerous.

__pThrow 13y ago

What do off color jokes have to do with sexism? As an example, the dongle joke had nothing to do with sexism. I am not trying to shame you but have you ever been around groups of women as they work or play? Off color jokes are typical of the species homo sapiens in 2014.

theorique 13y ago
Well, the dongle joke was kind of a play on the word "dong" as euphemism for penis. So it had some vague allusion to sexual content, but you're absolutely right that it had nothing to do with sexism. The real sexists are the people - including the distinguished Miss Richards who initially reported the joke - who presume that women are such delicate little flowers that they can't exist in an environment for adults, where people occasionally make jokes that are unsuitable for kindergarten kids. (i.e. I quite agree with you!)

Crito 13y ago

The "comedic banality" nonsense is tiring. At least you also said what you really mean, that the sexism is problematic, but far too often I have seen people pretend that their issue with a offensive/bigoted/problematic joke is that it is not funny or cliche^. Let's be honest here, that is not actually what bothers people. We only hear those objections when there is something else wrong with the joke; nobody objects to non-offensive unfunny jokes. Groan perhaps, but not object. ^ Usually this manifests as something like "it's not even that it is offensive, the joke is just _lazy_"

thwest 13y ago
There's no accounting for taste I suppose. I'll happily wade through a mountain of bad puns, but scatology and sexual dimorphism jokes are just wearisome.
- Crito 13y ago
  > "scatology and sexual dimorphism jokes are just wearisome." Right, but that is not because they are unimaginative or cliched (evidenced by you being able to wade through mountains of bad puns). It is because they are scatological or sexist.
illuminate 13y ago
"The "comedic banality" nonsense is tiring." I like dick jokes as much as the next person, but they have to be funny. It's not as "shocking" as you think. It's cliche.