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Author here: Please don't growth hack my titles for your submissions. Thx ;)

by andreasklinger 13y ago

diminish 13y ago
Do you keep anywhere a quick list of various metrics for various types of cases, for a startup?
- andreasklinger 13y ago
  Awesome question. Imho the core metrics are quantified product assumptions. Some related to user interaction, later (hopefully) some related to businessmodel assumptions. Depending on phase the focus tends to shift from retention to growth. Alistar and Ben made an awesome chart for their Lean Analytics book (recommended) http://i.imgur.com/0VBP68T.png http://i.imgur.com/0VBP68T.png These slides by me also might help: http://www.slideshare.net/andreasklinger/startup-metrics-a-love-story http://www.slideshare.net/andreasklinger/startup-metrics-a-l... hth
lukethomas 13y ago
Awesome post, I think you should write about your Google Analytics setup. I recently switched to Universal Analytics, and it's been quite a mess. Also, I highly recommend checking out Chartio (www.chartio.com) - since it's pulling everything from the DB, you can track and measure anything imaginable (http://chartio.com/docs/charts/transform/formulas http://chartio.com/docs/charts/transform/formulas) My stack is GA for acquisition, Mixpanel for product analytics, and Chartio for the stuff in between. It works well, but there's always room to improve.
- andreasklinger 13y ago
  100% agree on chart.io i tend to recommend it when people want a more complex dashboard setup most startups i recommend to keep with simple dashboards
- gk1 13y ago
  What issue(s) are you having with GA right now? I've done some advanced configurations with GA and maybe can help.
  - lukethomas 13y ago
    In a nutshell, we fire a server-side event when a user is created. What happens is that we're using oauth to authenticate, which then screws up the referring data. It attributes all signups to LinkedIn/Facebook, which is wrong. On classic analytics, everything worked fine. Universal Analytics tracks differently, so it's been a bit of a headache.
    - gk1 13y ago
      Without having a full view of what's happening, my hunch would be to look into these things: 1. Channel grouping (modify how referrers are defined) 2. Attribution model (eg, change to first interaction) 3. Referrer override (specify custom URL to be credited with referral) 4. Custom page path (on page that fires event, pass custom URL path to GA instead of actual URL) 5. Referral exclusion (ignore temporary stray into oAuth domain and continue user's same session) Hope that helps. If you could use a hand in getting this fixed quickly then get in touch (contact info in profile). Same goes for anyone else with tricky Analytics situations!
mmenafra 13y ago
Hi, Sorry really liked your article wanted to share it with everybody. No harm in that. piz
- andreasklinger 13y ago
  no worries. You seem to be better with titles than me anyway :)
- saurik 13y ago
  The article, and its original title, are structured and "theoretic" (not quite the word I want, but fairly close): it is very similar to college-level reading material. The replacement title honestly sounds more like "silly blog post from someone who hasn't thought much about the problem yet". I thereby clicked this link because I was interested in seeing the comments, not the article; it was only after I saw the author say the title was modified that I bothered looking over the article. I guess a comment to make is that the original author also likely wanted to share his content with everybody, and probably already attempted to choose a title that he felt portrayed his content in a light that would make that possible. Sometimes, titles should be more context-specific, but the kind of audience this post was targeting is probably itself similar to Hacker News. Meanwhile, due to Hacker News having an official policy against the modification of titles (for better or for worse), if it isn't clear that the title was re-targetted (maybe pointing to a specific paragraph or idea), the reader will expect the title of the actual post to be equivalent to the one submitted, and make judgements accordingly.
  - mmenafra 13y ago
    Yeah i understand you. Didn't want to make the post sound silly, but I guess that's your opinion on the subject. The only thing am confused about is that I see NH post all the time that the title and the article title are not the same, but i'll guess from now on every time i share third party content i'll stick with the original title or something that relates directly to the article. cheers

Author here: Please don't growth hack my titles for your submissions. Thx ;)

diminish 13y ago

Do you keep anywhere a quick list of various metrics for various types of cases, for a startup?

andreasklinger 13y ago
Awesome question. Imho the core metrics are quantified product assumptions. Some related to user interaction, later (hopefully) some related to businessmodel assumptions. Depending on phase the focus tends to shift from retention to growth. Alistar and Ben made an awesome chart for their Lean Analytics book (recommended) http://i.imgur.com/0VBP68T.png http://i.imgur.com/0VBP68T.png These slides by me also might help: http://www.slideshare.net/andreasklinger/startup-metrics-a-love-story http://www.slideshare.net/andreasklinger/startup-metrics-a-l... hth

lukethomas 13y ago

Awesome post, I think you should write about your Google Analytics setup. I recently switched to Universal Analytics, and it's been quite a mess. Also, I highly recommend checking out Chartio (www.chartio.com) - since it's pulling everything from the DB, you can track and measure anything imaginable (http://chartio.com/docs/charts/transform/formulas http://chartio.com/docs/charts/transform/formulas) My stack is GA for acquisition, Mixpanel for product analytics, and Chartio for the stuff in between. It works well, but there's always room to improve.

andreasklinger 13y ago
100% agree on chart.io i tend to recommend it when people want a more complex dashboard setup most startups i recommend to keep with simple dashboards
gk1 13y ago
What issue(s) are you having with GA right now? I've done some advanced configurations with GA and maybe can help.
- lukethomas 13y ago
  In a nutshell, we fire a server-side event when a user is created. What happens is that we're using oauth to authenticate, which then screws up the referring data. It attributes all signups to LinkedIn/Facebook, which is wrong. On classic analytics, everything worked fine. Universal Analytics tracks differently, so it's been a bit of a headache.
  - gk1 13y ago
    Without having a full view of what's happening, my hunch would be to look into these things: 1. Channel grouping (modify how referrers are defined) 2. Attribution model (eg, change to first interaction) 3. Referrer override (specify custom URL to be credited with referral) 4. Custom page path (on page that fires event, pass custom URL path to GA instead of actual URL) 5. Referral exclusion (ignore temporary stray into oAuth domain and continue user's same session) Hope that helps. If you could use a hand in getting this fixed quickly then get in touch (contact info in profile). Same goes for anyone else with tricky Analytics situations!

mmenafra 13y ago

Hi, Sorry really liked your article wanted to share it with everybody. No harm in that. piz

andreasklinger 13y ago
no worries. You seem to be better with titles than me anyway :)
saurik 13y ago
The article, and its original title, are structured and "theoretic" (not quite the word I want, but fairly close): it is very similar to college-level reading material. The replacement title honestly sounds more like "silly blog post from someone who hasn't thought much about the problem yet". I thereby clicked this link because I was interested in seeing the comments, not the article; it was only after I saw the author say the title was modified that I bothered looking over the article. I guess a comment to make is that the original author also likely wanted to share his content with everybody, and probably already attempted to choose a title that he felt portrayed his content in a light that would make that possible. Sometimes, titles should be more context-specific, but the kind of audience this post was targeting is probably itself similar to Hacker News. Meanwhile, due to Hacker News having an official policy against the modification of titles (for better or for worse), if it isn't clear that the title was re-targetted (maybe pointing to a specific paragraph or idea), the reader will expect the title of the actual post to be equivalent to the one submitted, and make judgements accordingly.
- mmenafra 13y ago
  Yeah i understand you. Didn't want to make the post sound silly, but I guess that's your opinion on the subject. The only thing am confused about is that I see NH post all the time that the title and the article title are not the same, but i'll guess from now on every time i share third party content i'll stick with the original title or something that relates directly to the article. cheers