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No, the government does not know what everyone does and cannot impersonate them, especially in voting. Could you elaborate, why do you believe that and which te

No, the government does not know what everyone does and cannot impersonate them, especially in voting. Could you elaborate, why do you believe that and which technical details about implementation interest you? You can learn a lot by starting to browse through http://id.ee/?lang=en&id= http://id.ee/?lang=en&id= By the way, there was a mistake in the article about the personal ID code. The "123" do not denote the 123rd baby of that day. Rather it denotes an ordinary number that is added to the persons' ID code who happen to have been born on the same day (the country where they have been born does not matter at all). So strangers are very welcome to apply for a personal ID code in Estonia :-)

rakoo 13y ago
(A response also to jkaljundi) > Could you elaborate Since you get a PIN card with a private key, someone else generated it. Whoever did it could impersonate me. I guess it would be done by a private company, so at least that company can do it. But I'm pretty certain that something of this importance would be accessible to a government (no real arguments here, merely armchair discussion) It's true that only concerned parties know about the transaction... until the transaction is made public (or shared with other interests). Again, I'm pretty sure this will be one way or another visible to the government. You could say I'm paranoid and anti-government. I just think that being paranoid is a necessary thing when doing anything related to security, and this falls exactly in this topic. The very least, as iwwr points out, is that anyone could create their own private key in this system (ie associate the generated public key with the id given by the government). The secrecy of the transactions is yet another problem which basically boils down to "how much do you trust other parties", and has little to do with technology. The idea of being able to do everything, including voting, with your computer is an amazing thing, but to date very little has been done to make sure that citizens can expect the same as today in terms of secrecy, privacy and ease of use. Again, a matter of how much you are paranoid and how much you are wanting to give up security in order to make things simpler. Thanks for the link, I will have a look. > So strangers are very welcome to apply for a personal ID code in Estonia Well, that's very good news :)

rakoo 13y ago

(A response also to jkaljundi) > Could you elaborate Since you get a PIN card with a private key, someone else generated it. Whoever did it could impersonate me. I guess it would be done by a private company, so at least that company can do it. But I'm pretty certain that something of this importance would be accessible to a government (no real arguments here, merely armchair discussion) It's true that only concerned parties know about the transaction... until the transaction is made public (or shared with other interests). Again, I'm pretty sure this will be one way or another visible to the government. You could say I'm paranoid and anti-government. I just think that being paranoid is a necessary thing when doing anything related to security, and this falls exactly in this topic. The very least, as iwwr points out, is that anyone could create their own private key in this system (ie associate the generated public key with the id given by the government). The secrecy of the transactions is yet another problem which basically boils down to "how much do you trust other parties", and has little to do with technology. The idea of being able to do everything, including voting, with your computer is an amazing thing, but to date very little has been done to make sure that citizens can expect the same as today in terms of secrecy, privacy and ease of use. Again, a matter of how much you are paranoid and how much you are wanting to give up security in order to make things simpler. Thanks for the link, I will have a look. > So strangers are very welcome to apply for a personal ID code in Estonia Well, that's very good news :)