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The Moto X comes with unremovable bloatware if you are on Verizon.

by rryan 13y ago

hhsnopek 13y ago
That's if you get it though Verizon, its better to (byod), not buy on contract...
- twiceaday 13y ago
  I think the point is that, regardless of how you get your iPhone, an iPhone will not have bloatware pre-installed. Same thing for Macs.
  - w1ntermute 13y ago
    And regardless of how you get your iPhone, you are stuck with Safari as your default browser. I would rather buy a phone that has bloatware (that can be disabled) than buy a phone on which I am not free to change the default applications. That said, you can have the best of both worlds by buying a Nexus device.
    - ENGNR 13y ago
      That's what I thought, but there are actually a bunch of Google apps that can't be uninstalled too. My old Galaxy Nexus became unusable as Google services got more aggressive (eating all the RAM if background service calls failed due to poor connection). The phone would literally restart in the middle of every third phone call, but the option to uninstall the main culprits like Google Currents was (is?) disabled. Sure I can install cyanogen, but I specifically bought the nexus to save having to do that.
      - jdhendrickson 13y ago
        I know it doesn't matter to you now but you could disable currents from it's own settings and never have it start again.
  - myko 13y ago
    Depends on what you consider bloatware too though. For instance, the weather app on the iPhone is annoying to me and I never use it, same with the Mail app. I've heard Android users complain about having the Gallery app pre-installed. Personally I don't consider any of those items bloatware, I just wonder where the line should reasonably be drawn.
  - DanBC 13y ago
    There is plenty of stuff installed on iPhone that people might not want. I can't change the keyboard; I can use a different mail app but not for sending attachments; I don't use safari; etc. These are all far far nicer that the junk installed by vendors (Orange in the UK is pretty bad). But it's still unwanted software that introduce frustrations for some users.
  - rrreese 13y ago
    Perhaps you don't own an iPhone? Theres a bunch of unremovable crap on mine. A comically bad notes app that loses notes, a poorly implemented reminders app, weather app (branded with a asmall yahoo add), Games Center which I can only assume was made by people who actively hate games, and a stock market app also festooned with yahoo adds. That's ignoring the disaster that is the unreplaceable browser and mail app.

The Moto X comes with unremovable bloatware if you are on Verizon.

by rryan 13y ago

The Moto X comes with unremovable bloatware if you are on Verizon.

hhsnopek 13y ago

That's if you get it though Verizon, its better to (byod), not buy on contract...

twiceaday 13y ago
I think the point is that, regardless of how you get your iPhone, an iPhone will not have bloatware pre-installed. Same thing for Macs.
- w1ntermute 13y ago
  And regardless of how you get your iPhone, you are stuck with Safari as your default browser. I would rather buy a phone that has bloatware (that can be disabled) than buy a phone on which I am not free to change the default applications. That said, you can have the best of both worlds by buying a Nexus device.
  - ENGNR 13y ago
    That's what I thought, but there are actually a bunch of Google apps that can't be uninstalled too. My old Galaxy Nexus became unusable as Google services got more aggressive (eating all the RAM if background service calls failed due to poor connection). The phone would literally restart in the middle of every third phone call, but the option to uninstall the main culprits like Google Currents was (is?) disabled. Sure I can install cyanogen, but I specifically bought the nexus to save having to do that.
    - jdhendrickson 13y ago
      I know it doesn't matter to you now but you could disable currents from it's own settings and never have it start again.
- myko 13y ago
  Depends on what you consider bloatware too though. For instance, the weather app on the iPhone is annoying to me and I never use it, same with the Mail app. I've heard Android users complain about having the Gallery app pre-installed. Personally I don't consider any of those items bloatware, I just wonder where the line should reasonably be drawn.
- DanBC 13y ago
  There is plenty of stuff installed on iPhone that people might not want. I can't change the keyboard; I can use a different mail app but not for sending attachments; I don't use safari; etc. These are all far far nicer that the junk installed by vendors (Orange in the UK is pretty bad). But it's still unwanted software that introduce frustrations for some users.
- rrreese 13y ago
  Perhaps you don't own an iPhone? Theres a bunch of unremovable crap on mine. A comically bad notes app that loses notes, a poorly implemented reminders app, weather app (branded with a asmall yahoo add), Games Center which I can only assume was made by people who actively hate games, and a stock market app also festooned with yahoo adds. That's ignoring the disaster that is the unreplaceable browser and mail app.