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This is why I sold my wife's Samsung and got her an iPhone again. I rather pay 700 for something made to delight me then 300 for something that can be used to s

• w1ntermute 13y ago
  This is a false dichotomy. The Nexus 5 is $349 off-contract and has no bloatware. The Moto X is going on sale for just $300 off-contract tomorrow (the regular off-contract price being $400).
  • rryan 13y ago
    The Moto X comes with unremovable bloatware if you are on Verizon.
    • hhsnopek 13y ago
      That's if you get it though Verizon, its better to (byod), not buy on contract...
      • twiceaday 13y ago
        I think the point is that, regardless of how you get your iPhone, an iPhone will not have bloatware pre-installed. Same thing for Macs.
        • w1ntermute 13y ago
          And regardless of how you get your iPhone, you are stuck with Safari as your default browser. I would rather buy a phone that has bloatware (that can be disabled) than buy a phone on which I am not free to change the default applications. That said, you can have the best of both worlds by buying a Nexus device.
          • ENGNR 13y ago
            That's what I thought, but there are actually a bunch of Google apps that can't be uninstalled too. My old Galaxy Nexus became unusable as Google services got more aggressive (eating all the RAM if background service calls failed due to poor connection). The phone would literally restart in the middle of every third phone call, but the option to uninstall the main culprits like Google Currents was (is?) disabled. Sure I can install cyanogen, but I specifically bought the nexus to save having to do that.
            • jdhendrickson 13y ago
              I know it doesn't matter to you now but you could disable currents from it's own settings and never have it start again.
        • myko 13y ago
          Depends on what you consider bloatware too though. For instance, the weather app on the iPhone is annoying to me and I never use it, same with the Mail app. I've heard Android users complain about having the Gallery app pre-installed. Personally I don't consider any of those items bloatware, I just wonder where the line should reasonably be drawn.
        • DanBC 13y ago
          There is plenty of stuff installed on iPhone that people might not want. I can't change the keyboard; I can use a different mail app but not for sending attachments; I don't use safari; etc. These are all far far nicer that the junk installed by vendors (Orange in the UK is pretty bad). But it's still unwanted software that introduce frustrations for some users.
        • rrreese 13y ago
          Perhaps you don't own an iPhone? Theres a bunch of unremovable crap on mine. A comically bad notes app that loses notes, a poorly implemented reminders app, weather app (branded with a asmall yahoo add), Games Center which I can only assume was made by people who actively hate games, and a stock market app also festooned with yahoo adds. That's ignoring the disaster that is the unreplaceable browser and mail app.
  • arkitaip 13y ago
    I don't know about Nexus 5 but my Nexus 4 comes with Google's bloatware apps, none of which are uninstallable.
    • ojii 13y ago
      Mine even has a "HP Print Service Plugin" which is unremovable and wastes ~25MB. And unremovable Chinese and Thai IMEs. But at least it's a lot less bloated than my previous HTC phones (Desire and One X).
      • timje1 13y ago
        I uninstalled the 'HP Print Service' on my Nexus 5 without an issue ...