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Correct me if I'm wrong... But didn't the Nazi's actively protect their 'rich leaders of industry' as long as they toed the line (Farben, Krupp, Etc)? They even

Correct me if I'm wrong... But didn't the Nazi's actively protect their 'rich leaders of industry' as long as they toed the line (Farben, Krupp, Etc)? They even provided them with concentration camp victims as slave labor at points. When did the Nazi's persecute the rich? Or is this just more "something something Nazi" rhetoric being used blindly?

walshemj 13y ago
They persecuted the rich owners of department stores - small shop keepers where a substantial target market for the NAZI party (source Kershaws bi of Hitler)
- ItendToDisagree 13y ago
  The point I was getting at is, was this because they were Jewish (or some other 'undesirable') or because they were rich/successful? Because it seems (at least some) Aryan heads of business/industry were in fact helped greatly by the Nazis.[0] Was the persecution because the Nazi's were 'socialists' or because they wanted to steal from what they considered lesser humans? The intention is what I wonder about. [0] http://archive.adl.org/braun/dim_13_2_forgetting.html http://archive.adl.org/braun/dim_13_2_forgetting.html
  - walshemj 13y ago
    Both - originally the Nazi's did have a lot of socialist policies and certainly the SA where more radical - one of the reasons they where purged eventualy I recommend Alex Kershaws huge two volume bio of Hitler
rakoo 13y ago
This has nothing to do with Nazi's riches, just like it has nothing to do with today's jews. The parallel he draws is simple: - Nazi's attacked a minority, the jews - Current society attacks a minority, the riches - Therefore, current society is literally le hitler. Whether that theory is valid or not is another topic (I believe his point was to raise attention, not truth)
- ItendToDisagree 13y ago
  Agreed. I'm not commenting on the author per se. I'm more commenting on the comments he addresses, some of which seem to imply that the Nazi's were anti-rich/anti-business. Up-voting as your comment very much helps clarify what I'm curious about.
- sentenza 13y ago
  In Germany we call what he did a "Nazivergleich". I cannot remember one as bad as his being uttered by a public figure over here in the last few decades and quite a few public figures had to apologize/step down because of Nazivergleiche that were way weaker. I don't want to reiterate everything I vented in the previous discussion of this incident[1], but the point is: You DO NOT invoke the Holocaust to draw attention on something else. The holocaust is of central importance to the history of the western world. A Germany that, at the turn of the century, was a beacon of science, industrialization and even free thought, took only fourty years to transform into a state where it was possible to conduct industrialized genocide without much opposition. This is not to be taken lightly, but to be contemplated and internalized. It is not to be invoked just to make a conversational point. AND YOU DON'T USE IT TO DRAW ATTENTION TO YOURSELF. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7121533 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7121533
michalu 13y ago
Nazi's didn't but communists did. They've took away all property and jailed entrepreneurs, intellectuals were sent to labor camps on the grounds of "class warfare". Perkins picked a wrong analogy.

walshemj 13y ago

They persecuted the rich owners of department stores - small shop keepers where a substantial target market for the NAZI party (source Kershaws bi of Hitler)

ItendToDisagree 13y ago
The point I was getting at is, was this because they were Jewish (or some other 'undesirable') or because they were rich/successful? Because it seems (at least some) Aryan heads of business/industry were in fact helped greatly by the Nazis.[0] Was the persecution because the Nazi's were 'socialists' or because they wanted to steal from what they considered lesser humans? The intention is what I wonder about. [0] http://archive.adl.org/braun/dim_13_2_forgetting.html http://archive.adl.org/braun/dim_13_2_forgetting.html
- walshemj 13y ago
  Both - originally the Nazi's did have a lot of socialist policies and certainly the SA where more radical - one of the reasons they where purged eventualy I recommend Alex Kershaws huge two volume bio of Hitler

rakoo 13y ago

This has nothing to do with Nazi's riches, just like it has nothing to do with today's jews. The parallel he draws is simple: - Nazi's attacked a minority, the jews - Current society attacks a minority, the riches - Therefore, current society is literally le hitler. Whether that theory is valid or not is another topic (I believe his point was to raise attention, not truth)

ItendToDisagree 13y ago
Agreed. I'm not commenting on the author per se. I'm more commenting on the comments he addresses, some of which seem to imply that the Nazi's were anti-rich/anti-business. Up-voting as your comment very much helps clarify what I'm curious about.
sentenza 13y ago
In Germany we call what he did a "Nazivergleich". I cannot remember one as bad as his being uttered by a public figure over here in the last few decades and quite a few public figures had to apologize/step down because of Nazivergleiche that were way weaker. I don't want to reiterate everything I vented in the previous discussion of this incident[1], but the point is: You DO NOT invoke the Holocaust to draw attention on something else. The holocaust is of central importance to the history of the western world. A Germany that, at the turn of the century, was a beacon of science, industrialization and even free thought, took only fourty years to transform into a state where it was possible to conduct industrialized genocide without much opposition. This is not to be taken lightly, but to be contemplated and internalized. It is not to be invoked just to make a conversational point. AND YOU DON'T USE IT TO DRAW ATTENTION TO YOURSELF. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7121533 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7121533

michalu 13y ago

Nazi's didn't but communists did. They've took away all property and jailed entrepreneurs, intellectuals were sent to labor camps on the grounds of "class warfare". Perkins picked a wrong analogy.