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Yeah, that definitely justifies setting someone on fire. The protesters are just this peaceful bunch of people who would never do something like that, hurt oth

by nikolak 13y ago

Yeah, that definitely justifies setting someone on fire. The protesters are just this peaceful bunch of people who would never do something like that, hurt other people who are just standing there... /s http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=959_1390672028 http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=959_1390672028 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuO53xeZkm8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuO53xeZkm8

Mithaldu 13y ago
These police are just standing there, shielding people who previously happily allowed the police to brutalize peacefully protesting civilians and even tried to poison political enemies. So no, they are not simply standing there. Further, the protesters in the liveleak video only hit police armed with riot gear and once they're rid of that largely leave them alone. That is astonishing control.
- nikolak 13y ago
  By that logic, would you agree that police should use any force necessary(beatings, etc) to cut through peaceful demonstrators and arrest those who are not peaceful, throwing Molotov's and such, because after all these peaceful protesters are just protecting those who aren't? Further, the police in the video only hit protesters and then leave them alone. That is astonishing control.
us0r 13y ago
The protesters absolutely have been a peaceful bunch. You when they turned violent? After the first video I posted. Had that never happened there would probably be no one on the street right now and he can continue raping the country as usual. After that day or two it goes back to being peaceful and a few weeks later he tried it again. Every single time this thing kind of starts fading out he goes in and fails at violently clearing it up then 2x the people join in. Are there radicals? Sure. They are limited in number and are definitely not the majority or "uncontrollable" as the Russian media reports it.
mjmahone17 13y ago
Did you watch the first video until the end? They forcefully take the police shields, then, when the police are left standing defenseless, and actually surrender, they tell them to go through, and let them walk out of the building. There's no beating taking place, besides that required to break the police's stand. Even the guy with the fire hose is clearly going for the shield, not actively trying to injure the officer.
- ricardobeat 13y ago
  The guy with the firehose is clearly going for their heads. There would be no point banging on the shield anyway. If you're going to support this, you have to admit that eggs are going to be broken, and that the ultimate motives are far more important than the physical integrity of government actors. Can you do that?

by nikolak 13y ago

Mithaldu 13y ago

These police are just standing there, shielding people who previously happily allowed the police to brutalize peacefully protesting civilians and even tried to poison political enemies. So no, they are not simply standing there. Further, the protesters in the liveleak video only hit police armed with riot gear and once they're rid of that largely leave them alone. That is astonishing control.

nikolak 13y ago
By that logic, would you agree that police should use any force necessary(beatings, etc) to cut through peaceful demonstrators and arrest those who are not peaceful, throwing Molotov's and such, because after all these peaceful protesters are just protecting those who aren't? Further, the police in the video only hit protesters and then leave them alone. That is astonishing control.

us0r 13y ago

The protesters absolutely have been a peaceful bunch. You when they turned violent? After the first video I posted. Had that never happened there would probably be no one on the street right now and he can continue raping the country as usual. After that day or two it goes back to being peaceful and a few weeks later he tried it again. Every single time this thing kind of starts fading out he goes in and fails at violently clearing it up then 2x the people join in. Are there radicals? Sure. They are limited in number and are definitely not the majority or "uncontrollable" as the Russian media reports it.

mjmahone17 13y ago

Did you watch the first video until the end? They forcefully take the police shields, then, when the police are left standing defenseless, and actually surrender, they tell them to go through, and let them walk out of the building. There's no beating taking place, besides that required to break the police's stand. Even the guy with the fire hose is clearly going for the shield, not actively trying to injure the officer.

ricardobeat 13y ago
The guy with the firehose is clearly going for their heads. There would be no point banging on the shield anyway. If you're going to support this, you have to admit that eggs are going to be broken, and that the ultimate motives are far more important than the physical integrity of government actors. Can you do that?