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Just remember that everything you read/see about Ukraine is propaganda published by someone who is trying to get you to agree with their point of view. They are

Just remember that everything you read/see about Ukraine is propaganda published by someone who is trying to get you to agree with their point of view. They are careful to select their photos to not show the things that they don't want you to know about. For instance, these photos careful do not show the neo-nazi far right groups, the people with handguns, or the police being hit by flaming molotov cocktails or wounded by fireworks. Of course the other side similarly delivers an edited message. But the bottom line is that none of this is democracy. Whatever it is, it has to end sometime so that all the groups of people who live in Ukraine can sit down, discuss their differences, find compromises and live in peace. Only then will Ukraine really be a nation. Until then it is just a corner of the Soviet Union that has failed to catch up with the modern world.

IgorPartola 13y ago
Bullshit. The people cannot sit down with this criminal president and discuss anything. Ones that do end up in prison: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yulia_Tymoshenko http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yulia_Tymoshenko. He is stealing from the people (http://m.spiegel.de/international/world/a-833127.html http://m.spiegel.de/international/world/a-833127.html) and is actively suppressing all forms of the opposition. Apply your logic to the American revolution and see just how absurd it starts to sound. The please stop trolling.
- x0x0 13y ago
  end up in prison and beaten (did they cause her spinal issues or just prevent treatment?)
bluekeybox 13y ago
> Until then it is just a corner of the Soviet Union that has failed to catch up with the modern world. Sounding a little patronizing here, no?
memracom 13y ago
Yes, I feel rather superior being a dual citizen of a NAFTA country which gets along with its neighbors, and an EU country which also gets along with its neighbors. I simply do not agree with any political movement that is based on demonizing a group of citizens of your own country or based on demonizing a country which is a neighbor. Given that Ukrainians seem to be doing both, I am quite smug and patronising about that fact. In the end they have to stop shouting, and vilifying. They have to start talking and be willing to find compromises. That's the only way that will work in the 21st century.
- bluekeybox 13y ago
  So far the protesters' actions have been targeting the government, not the citizens who support it. As to "demonizing a country which is a neighbor", the very fact you chose those words shows you are completely unfamiliar with the situation. Which makes your patronizing attitude not only needlessly arrogant, but also uninformed.

IgorPartola 13y ago

Bullshit. The people cannot sit down with this criminal president and discuss anything. Ones that do end up in prison: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yulia_Tymoshenko http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yulia_Tymoshenko. He is stealing from the people (http://m.spiegel.de/international/world/a-833127.html http://m.spiegel.de/international/world/a-833127.html) and is actively suppressing all forms of the opposition. Apply your logic to the American revolution and see just how absurd it starts to sound. The please stop trolling.

x0x0 13y ago
end up in prison and beaten (did they cause her spinal issues or just prevent treatment?)

bluekeybox 13y ago

> Until then it is just a corner of the Soviet Union that has failed to catch up with the modern world. Sounding a little patronizing here, no?

memracom 13y ago

Yes, I feel rather superior being a dual citizen of a NAFTA country which gets along with its neighbors, and an EU country which also gets along with its neighbors. I simply do not agree with any political movement that is based on demonizing a group of citizens of your own country or based on demonizing a country which is a neighbor. Given that Ukrainians seem to be doing both, I am quite smug and patronising about that fact. In the end they have to stop shouting, and vilifying. They have to start talking and be willing to find compromises. That's the only way that will work in the 21st century.

bluekeybox 13y ago
So far the protesters' actions have been targeting the government, not the citizens who support it. As to "demonizing a country which is a neighbor", the very fact you chose those words shows you are completely unfamiliar with the situation. Which makes your patronizing attitude not only needlessly arrogant, but also uninformed.