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The reality distortion field the protesters have formed is impressive. They've completely overshadowed a few key points: - The Yanukovych government offered
by Mikeb85 13y ago
The reality distortion field the protesters have formed is impressive. They've completely overshadowed a few key points:
- The Yanukovych government offered a power-sharing agreement with the opposition, offering Yatsenyuk the PM position and Klitschko the deputy PM job, which the opposition rejected: http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/ukraine-oppositions-rejects-viktor-yanukovych-s-concessions-1.2509259 http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/ukraine-oppositions-rejects-vik...
- The fascist element - one of the opposition leaders, Oleh Tyahnybok, leads a fascist party (Svoboda) and has openly spread anti-Semitic rhetoric, and aligned itself with extremist groups. Fairly common knowledge to anyone in the know... You can see the fascist and neo-nazi symbols on many of the protesters. http://en.ria.ru/images/18519/41/185194148.jpg http://en.ria.ru/images/18519/41/185194148.jpg The flags with 3 fingers are Svoboda's symbol, the red and black ones are UPA flags, which are the symbol of a group that collaborated with the Nazis, and are used by fascist groups in Ukraine.
- The protesters have been the most violent force during the protests. In what country do police stand by when Molotov cocktails and fireworks are fired at them? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h22oHs3eiLg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h22oHs3eiLg
- And finally, Yanukovych was not only democratically elected, but because of the split amongst the opposition factions, the PoR will likely win any election that is devoid of outside interference... After the 'Orange Revolution' the opposition united with Yushchenko, now there's 3 large opposition groups (Fatherland, 'Punch', and Svoboda). Considering half the country firmly supports the Party of Regions, the opposition are unlikely to win anything.
Edit - more fascist imagery at the protests: http://gwplondon.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/kiev-maidan1.jpg http://gwplondon.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/kiev-maidan1.jp... http://gwplondon.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/kiev-maidan2.jpg http://gwplondon.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/kiev-maidan2.jp...
Edit2 - the Svoboda/Oleh Tyahnybok fascist/anti-Semitic connection:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTjezCzo-BQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTjezCzo-BQ
http://www.ibtimes.com/svoboda-rising-spectre-neo-nazism-ukraine-974110 http://www.ibtimes.com/svoboda-rising-spectre-neo-nazism-ukr...
These are the words of Oleh Tyahnybok: "They did not fear, but took up their automatic rifles, going into the woods to fight Muscovites, Germans, Jewry and other filth which wanted to take away our Ukrainian nationhood. It’s time to give Ukraine to the Ukrainians. Like them, you are most feared by the Moscow-Jewish mafia which today runs Ukraine"
http://gwplondon.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/oleg-tyanhybok.jpg http://gwplondon.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/oleg-tyanhybok....
- huhtenberg 13y ago> And finally, Yanukovych was not only democratically elected You may want to fact-check that. Accounts on the matter, as they say, differ wildly.
- Mikeb85 13y ago> You may want to fact-check that. Accounts on the matter, as they say, differ wildly. How did he rig the election when Yushchenko was in power?
- bluekeybox 13y agoActually he indeed was, but one of his first steps he took immediately after was to imprison his main political opponent (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yulia_Tymoshenko#2011_trial_and_imprisonment_and_other_criminal_cases_against_Tymoshenko http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yulia_Tymoshenko#2011_trial_and...).
- IgorPartola 13y agoYanukovych is a criminal who should never have even bee eligible to run: http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukraine/from-prison-to-president-59338.html http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukraine/from-prison-to-presi... He rigged an election before and got caught. He is a convicted felon and a puppet controlled by Russia. There is no reality distortion field here: he is bad for Ukraine. Remember, Ukraine does not have a separate judicial system to undo unjust laws. Therefore the people have a responsibility to directly protest these unjust laws (such as the law disallowing protests). I am not defending violence, but saying that Yanukovych is somehow doing anything on the up and up is false, end of story.
- Mikeb85 13y agoHe was convicted as a youth when the Soviet Union was still a thing... People can change. Did he rig the election when he ousted Yushchenko and the ruling party?
- IgorPartola 13y ago