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Yes, I was kidding about 'man', but my point is that 'bro' isn't that exclusionary. In fact, I think the problem here is that a lot of geeks don't like 'bros'

by lhnz 13y ago

Yes, I was kidding about 'man', but my point is that 'bro' isn't that exclusionary. In fact, I think the problem here is that a lot of geeks don't like 'bros' and I am doubting that they're hated by women as much. Personal opinion here, but: a lot of women have friends that are bros; a lot fewer geeks have friends that are bros.

couchand 13y ago
Curious that you seem to think that women and geeks are mutually exclusive groups...
- lhnz 13y ago
  No I didn't say that. I think that is completely false. >> A lot of geeks don't like 'bros' and I am doubting that they're hated by women as much. Personal opinion here, but: a lot of women have friends that are bros; a lot fewer geeks have friends that are bros. I think women that are geeks also have fewer 'bro' friends. Geek is a property of men and women, it is not a mutually-exclusive group. Nice try, trying to implicate me in sexism but I do not like it when people try to read things into what I say that I've never implied. I intended one thing, stop trying to use it against me... What I am saying is that I think a group of non-genderised geeks define the label 'bro' by its negative connotations more so than the greater super set of non-geeks (even those which are of the female gender.) It's a case of a new set of people 'bros' joining another set of people 'geeks'; it's exactly the same group behaviour as you see when people from different cultures immigrate into a country; same us-vs-them group behaviour; same magnification and amplification of negative connotations. A bro is just a stereotype. People are people and you should get to know them first before rejecting them (and especially if there are negative behaviours that you want to treat.)
  - GFK_of_xmaspast 13y ago
    If people are often reading sexist intent into your words maybe you ought to consider the possibility that the things you are writing are, in fact, sexist. Or be more careful.
    - lhnz 13y ago
      It rarely happens. And in this case I think it was blatant and aggressive straw-manning. I simply have no patience for people being exclusionary that accuse me of being exclusionary.
    - dreamfactory2 13y ago
      On the other hand, it may say much more about the person doing the misinterpreting.
wildgift 13y ago
Yes. Geek culture isn't about being a bro. When I think about "bros" I think about guys who party, and then let someone else do the work. It's about power disguised as being carefree. Geek culture is about a kind of unification of mind and action. It's also about creativity within traditions.

by lhnz 13y ago

couchand 13y ago

Curious that you seem to think that women and geeks are mutually exclusive groups...

lhnz 13y ago
No I didn't say that. I think that is completely false. >> A lot of geeks don't like 'bros' and I am doubting that they're hated by women as much. Personal opinion here, but: a lot of women have friends that are bros; a lot fewer geeks have friends that are bros. I think women that are geeks also have fewer 'bro' friends. Geek is a property of men and women, it is not a mutually-exclusive group. Nice try, trying to implicate me in sexism but I do not like it when people try to read things into what I say that I've never implied. I intended one thing, stop trying to use it against me... What I am saying is that I think a group of non-genderised geeks define the label 'bro' by its negative connotations more so than the greater super set of non-geeks (even those which are of the female gender.) It's a case of a new set of people 'bros' joining another set of people 'geeks'; it's exactly the same group behaviour as you see when people from different cultures immigrate into a country; same us-vs-them group behaviour; same magnification and amplification of negative connotations. A bro is just a stereotype. People are people and you should get to know them first before rejecting them (and especially if there are negative behaviours that you want to treat.)
- GFK_of_xmaspast 13y ago
  If people are often reading sexist intent into your words maybe you ought to consider the possibility that the things you are writing are, in fact, sexist. Or be more careful.
  - lhnz 13y ago
    It rarely happens. And in this case I think it was blatant and aggressive straw-manning. I simply have no patience for people being exclusionary that accuse me of being exclusionary.
  - dreamfactory2 13y ago
    On the other hand, it may say much more about the person doing the misinterpreting.

wildgift 13y ago

Yes. Geek culture isn't about being a bro. When I think about "bros" I think about guys who party, and then let someone else do the work. It's about power disguised as being carefree. Geek culture is about a kind of unification of mind and action. It's also about creativity within traditions.