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Thank you for the response. Your comment and other ones indeed explain the matter - some colleges are basically their own cities, located near a small town. My

by Nimi 13y ago

Thank you for the response. Your comment and other ones indeed explain the matter - some colleges are basically their own cities, located near a small town. My own conclusions from this appalling story are: 1. If you're at a U.S. university and are experiencing mental difficulties - just pay the 25$ copay and see someone outside the university. Had the OP done that, Yale would have probably had no clue what was going on. Maybe someone would notice she's missing classes, maybe not even that. 2. Don't get committed. If you need to, see a therapist on your time and on your own dime. They likely won't order you to take off your underwear, spread your legs, then hop up and down to make sure nothing was hidden “up there".

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joesmo 13y ago
To not get committed, one would have to lie about hurting oneself (which might not have been possible in this case given the visible injury). Not foolproof, but to not get committed, one should keep these thoughts to oneself. Even a trusted doctor is likely to commit one. This decision still lies purely with the doctor. The _only_ surefire way to not get committed is to not see anyone who doesn't have your best interests in mind and that includes all medical and social professions. Sad indeed.
- Nimi 13y ago
  Yes, sounds like a serious dilemma - try to get help, and you risk being committed. I have a feeling that private psychiatrists know they face a repeat game with a patient they shipped to such horrendous treatment at a ward, and thus have their finger resting much easier on the trigger. But as you said, nothing here is foolproof.
  - joesmo 13y ago
    I wouldn't doubt that. Psychiatrists play some horrific games with their patients that border on criminal (and likely should be criminal). These days, a patient that is difficult is simply dealt with in the simplest possible way: drugs. If that one size fits all solution should cause problems or not work, I wouldn't put it past any psychiatrist to commit their difficult patients, especially ones with a history of problems. Most of the time, they won't even bother with a diagnosis, even after years of prescribing medicine. In many ways, it's quite scary, and undoubtedly people that need the help are not getting it while people that don't are being drugged and strung on for the psychiatrist's profit.
gumby 13y ago
Depends on the institution. MIT is incredibly committed to trying to get anyone admitted to graduate, and apparently that includes a lot of free psych services. I know students who dropped out for years and subsequently continued by simply registering and paying tuition.

by Nimi 13y ago

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joesmo 13y ago

To not get committed, one would have to lie about hurting oneself (which might not have been possible in this case given the visible injury). Not foolproof, but to not get committed, one should keep these thoughts to oneself. Even a trusted doctor is likely to commit one. This decision still lies purely with the doctor. The _only_ surefire way to not get committed is to not see anyone who doesn't have your best interests in mind and that includes all medical and social professions. Sad indeed.

Nimi 13y ago
Yes, sounds like a serious dilemma - try to get help, and you risk being committed. I have a feeling that private psychiatrists know they face a repeat game with a patient they shipped to such horrendous treatment at a ward, and thus have their finger resting much easier on the trigger. But as you said, nothing here is foolproof.
- joesmo 13y ago
  I wouldn't doubt that. Psychiatrists play some horrific games with their patients that border on criminal (and likely should be criminal). These days, a patient that is difficult is simply dealt with in the simplest possible way: drugs. If that one size fits all solution should cause problems or not work, I wouldn't put it past any psychiatrist to commit their difficult patients, especially ones with a history of problems. Most of the time, they won't even bother with a diagnosis, even after years of prescribing medicine. In many ways, it's quite scary, and undoubtedly people that need the help are not getting it while people that don't are being drugged and strung on for the psychiatrist's profit.

gumby 13y ago

Depends on the institution. MIT is incredibly committed to trying to get anyone admitted to graduate, and apparently that includes a lot of free psych services. I know students who dropped out for years and subsequently continued by simply registering and paying tuition.