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So if you cut yourself you get treated as a criminal and tortured? What the hell is going on here? How is this even legal?

dbingham 13y ago
The American mental health system is what's going on here. And it gets worse. Just the other day I was listening to an NPR article about how jails deal with mentally ill inmates. Alot of them seem to end up there for committing minor crimes that stem from their health problems (such as, to quote the article, "action out"). They receive some care in jail (but very little) and none when they are out. Here's the link: http://www.npr.org/2014/01/20/263461940/mentally-ill-inmates-often-locked-up-in-jails-that-cant-help http://www.npr.org/2014/01/20/263461940/mentally-ill-inmates...
girvo 13y ago
Welcome to the mental health "industry". I avoided it, thank god, though by rights I probably shouldn't have in some ways. I self medicated with heroin to avoid being locked up in hospital, with little visitation, no computer, no life, for six months, just like people I knew had. Now I've spent the last year and half getting clean, after 7 years of addiction... And what scares me is that I seem to be doing better than those that went through the real system.
- legutierr 13y ago
  > And what scares me is that I seem to be doing better than those that went through the real system. How so? What happened to them?
  - 001sky 13y ago
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lobotomy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lobotomy Modern technique is slightly different, but the outsome / goals essentially the same. And this historical record is elighntening both in the origins and the evolution of the clinical treatent. Today, the preferred method is to drug children in schools. Evolution surely hasn't increased the error rate in replicating "normal" DNA sets over the past 50 years, but the data indicates something like 1/5 of them are now "defective" enough to be eligible for the happy treatment.[1] [1] In US, 20% Of Children Have A Mental Disorder >http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/260697.php http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/260697.php
pnathan 13y ago
Not precisely. You get restrained to ensure that you will cause no self harm or harm to others. Some of it is harsher than perhaps is warrented for the 'lightweight' case, but the procedures have to deal with very difficult individuals who have cut the hawser to the land of rationality. You can find the laws for each state listed online. Some of the laws for mental health management and confinement are very reasonable. Others, less so. And there is no blessing that means laws are followed all the time. I am personally surprised at the level of restraint in this particular case, but I do not know (1) the standard procedures in this hospital and (2) the amount of other issues going on at this particular point in time. I am also surprised that the author was essentially tossed out and not given a medical withdrawal. However, the author may have left out bits of her story that would explain these aspects and provided the full context.

dbingham 13y ago

The American mental health system is what's going on here. And it gets worse. Just the other day I was listening to an NPR article about how jails deal with mentally ill inmates. Alot of them seem to end up there for committing minor crimes that stem from their health problems (such as, to quote the article, "action out"). They receive some care in jail (but very little) and none when they are out. Here's the link: http://www.npr.org/2014/01/20/263461940/mentally-ill-inmates-often-locked-up-in-jails-that-cant-help http://www.npr.org/2014/01/20/263461940/mentally-ill-inmates...

girvo 13y ago

Welcome to the mental health "industry". I avoided it, thank god, though by rights I probably shouldn't have in some ways. I self medicated with heroin to avoid being locked up in hospital, with little visitation, no computer, no life, for six months, just like people I knew had. Now I've spent the last year and half getting clean, after 7 years of addiction... And what scares me is that I seem to be doing better than those that went through the real system.

legutierr 13y ago
> And what scares me is that I seem to be doing better than those that went through the real system. How so? What happened to them?
- 001sky 13y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lobotomy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lobotomy Modern technique is slightly different, but the outsome / goals essentially the same. And this historical record is elighntening both in the origins and the evolution of the clinical treatent. Today, the preferred method is to drug children in schools. Evolution surely hasn't increased the error rate in replicating "normal" DNA sets over the past 50 years, but the data indicates something like 1/5 of them are now "defective" enough to be eligible for the happy treatment.[1] [1] In US, 20% Of Children Have A Mental Disorder >http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/260697.php http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/260697.php

pnathan 13y ago

Not precisely. You get restrained to ensure that you will cause no self harm or harm to others. Some of it is harsher than perhaps is warrented for the 'lightweight' case, but the procedures have to deal with very difficult individuals who have cut the hawser to the land of rationality. You can find the laws for each state listed online. Some of the laws for mental health management and confinement are very reasonable. Others, less so. And there is no blessing that means laws are followed all the time. I am personally surprised at the level of restraint in this particular case, but I do not know (1) the standard procedures in this hospital and (2) the amount of other issues going on at this particular point in time. I am also surprised that the author was essentially tossed out and not given a medical withdrawal. However, the author may have left out bits of her story that would explain these aspects and provided the full context.