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Surprisingly this has brought some memories, I remember my father beating me in a chess game exactly the same way in just a few moves, back when I was a kid, my

by stiff 13y ago

Surprisingly this has brought some memories, I remember my father beating me in a chess game exactly the same way in just a few moves, back when I was a kid, my chess knowledge to this day sums up to knowing how the pieces move, and my father I think knew some more chess theory regarding strategy, but wasn't even a competitive player, so my laymen impression is that this was a really unremarkable game. Would someone competent at chess be so kind and explain what did Bill do wrong? Does this class of mistakes (castling "locking" the king in the corner) have a name?

astine 13y ago
Gate's first mistake wasn't castling, but taking Carlsen's pawn without having a sufficient a sufficient buildup for the exchange. He lost the center of the board as a result. That's just my two cents as I haven't played competitively since middle school.
Bootvis 13y ago
In general, castling is a good thing. In this case, and in retrospect, it was unwise. Carlsens pieces were aiming at the king side so further development and then castling queen side would have made more sense. I think Gates' first mistake was 3. Bd3. It blocks the d-pawn and the bishop isn't very active at Bd3. The computer gives white a small advantage after 2. .. d5 but a disadvantage after Bd3. It prefers to just take the pawn. With low depth the computer also plays Gates 4th to 6th move. So despite the threads on the king side castling seems possible. 6. h3 is not recommended but it thinks Blakcks response 7 .. Ne5 is a blunder. However, with his last move, allowing the mate, Gates really blunders. If he would have played Re1 instead the computer gives an advantage of almost 3 pawns. Note: the computer was Stockfish
raintrees 13y ago
My dad once challenged me (again) and I really didn't want to play, so I ran Fool's Mate on him (I had read it in some book of chess challenges). He never asked again, it was kind of ruined for him... Gotta watch those teenagers, I wasn't nice sometimes when my free reading was being interrupted. Edit: glad I grew up some...
- pzxc 13y ago
  Not to nitpick, but I'm sure you mean Scholar's Mate, where you attack the pawn in front of the king's bishop with two pieces (usually queen and bishop/knight) and win in 4 moves or so. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scholar%27s_mate http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scholar%27s_mate Many people erroneously call this fool's mate, but fool's mate is actually the shortest chess game possible (win in 2 moves), which is virtually impossible (you'd have to be playing against someone that really doesn't know what they're doing AND they'd have to move the two specific pawns to allow it). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fool%27s_mate http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fool%27s_mate
  - raintrees 13y ago
    Thank you, yes, he moved a piece or two outside of the pattern, but everything else worked a treat: Queen and Bishop trapped his King, I think maybe 7 moves or so, including the stumbles.
stiff 13y ago
I will answer my own question: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Back-rank_checkmate http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Back-rank_checkmate

by stiff 13y ago

astine 13y ago

Gate's first mistake wasn't castling, but taking Carlsen's pawn without having a sufficient a sufficient buildup for the exchange. He lost the center of the board as a result. That's just my two cents as I haven't played competitively since middle school.

Bootvis 13y ago

In general, castling is a good thing. In this case, and in retrospect, it was unwise. Carlsens pieces were aiming at the king side so further development and then castling queen side would have made more sense. I think Gates' first mistake was 3. Bd3. It blocks the d-pawn and the bishop isn't very active at Bd3. The computer gives white a small advantage after 2. .. d5 but a disadvantage after Bd3. It prefers to just take the pawn. With low depth the computer also plays Gates 4th to 6th move. So despite the threads on the king side castling seems possible. 6. h3 is not recommended but it thinks Blakcks response 7 .. Ne5 is a blunder. However, with his last move, allowing the mate, Gates really blunders. If he would have played Re1 instead the computer gives an advantage of almost 3 pawns. Note: the computer was Stockfish

raintrees 13y ago

My dad once challenged me (again) and I really didn't want to play, so I ran Fool's Mate on him (I had read it in some book of chess challenges). He never asked again, it was kind of ruined for him... Gotta watch those teenagers, I wasn't nice sometimes when my free reading was being interrupted. Edit: glad I grew up some...

pzxc 13y ago
Not to nitpick, but I'm sure you mean Scholar's Mate, where you attack the pawn in front of the king's bishop with two pieces (usually queen and bishop/knight) and win in 4 moves or so. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scholar%27s_mate http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scholar%27s_mate Many people erroneously call this fool's mate, but fool's mate is actually the shortest chess game possible (win in 2 moves), which is virtually impossible (you'd have to be playing against someone that really doesn't know what they're doing AND they'd have to move the two specific pawns to allow it). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fool%27s_mate http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fool%27s_mate
- raintrees 13y ago
  Thank you, yes, he moved a piece or two outside of the pattern, but everything else worked a treat: Queen and Bishop trapped his King, I think maybe 7 moves or so, including the stumbles.

stiff 13y ago

I will answer my own question: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Back-rank_checkmate http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Back-rank_checkmate