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New XAMPP / Apache Friends site released

35 points by ridruejo 13y ago

ckdarby 13y ago
What is perl doing in this bundle >_>?
- sea6ear 13y ago
  Perl has always been in the bundle - at least as long as I've been using it. I used to use it as an easy way to get a Perl installation on windows that didn't need to use the registry. I remember one of the Apache Friends guys helping me by specifically creating a bash script to trim down the distribution to fit on a 100Mb zip disk (probably back in the early 2000s) so that I could have a portable web dev environment that I could use on the computers at my University. I've always had fond memories of ApacheFriends since that time.
- jbeja 13y ago
  It has been there forever is the last "P" in "XAMPP".
BlakePetersen 13y ago
Oh WOW! After kicking around the XAMPP docs for the last week, the difference is night and day. Literally, they were using a 600px fixed-width layout... with a baby as the home page icon? https://web.archive.org/web/20140123124247/http://www.apachefriends.org/en/index.html https://web.archive.org/web/20140123124247/http://www.apache... <-- Only thing missing is here is the dial-up connection
- dmunoz 13y ago
  So? It was functional. I hit the website just the other week to update my local XAMPP install, and didn't think for a second about the design. I don't rely on it much any more since I have a VPS, but I can use it test locally when my internet goes down (which unfortunately is getting to be too often lately.) The new design is nice looking, but I just checked and to download the portable version I am filtered through to the sourceforge.net page for the project, which I never enjoyed navigating. It's not that difficult, but it's more laborious that the direct link that used to be on the downloads page. Their download page is also very unclear at the moment. You don't know which link is 1.8.2 and which 1.8.3 without hovering over the link. How did that sneak by?
  - BlakePetersen 13y ago
    As a consumer-facing corporate web developer, I am constantly thinking about the design decisions sites make and whether there's anything I can glean from the perceived approach. When spending my time on apachefriends.org this week, it was always on my mind, especially with the narrow layout and that baby icon (seriously spent 5 minutes thinking... 'but... why?'). Unfortunately, I am required to code on a windows machine for my current 9 to 5, so I am fairly limited as to what tools I have to get a LAMP stack up and running quickly and locally. So, XAMPP is my homie for now and it's site is one I kick around from time to time, especially when trying to figure out how to turn off AsychDNS in the curl library (yea... you have to rebuild the lib... fun stuff). Regarding the download pages, I feel the versioning makes sense if you assume the higher XAMPP version correlates to the higher PHP version, which makes sense to me.
    - ridruejo 13y ago
      The site design had not changed over literally 10 years (ouch). Current one is not perfect, we will continue to improve it as time permits, but hopefully it is an improvement
frik 13y ago
Where is the download link to the portable edition?? Please consider adding the ZIP-archive again (portable ed.). (I found it browsing the sourceforge archive, but that's painful)
- dmunoz 13y ago
  I just complained about that in reply to another comment. I understand that they don't want to have a bunch of links on the download page, but I wish the "More Downloads" link expanded inline with direct links to the most popular downloads (portable versions, and please put the .7z there alongside the .zip) instead of having to make three additional clicks on sourceforge. Also, the provided links are not even clear about which version you are downloading. You don't know which is 1.8.2 and which 1.8.3 without hovering over the link.
  - ridruejo 13y ago
    Thanks for the feedback, we will fix the links
    - ridruejo 13y ago
      The links are fixed now, we will work on the "More downloads" side of things
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dangrossman 13y ago
It was designed by contest -- http://99designs.com/web-design/contests/re-design-apache-friends-xampp-website-reach-millions-267884 http://99designs.com/web-design/contests/re-design-apache-fr...
- ridruejo 13y ago
  Correct. Here is the original announcement http://community.apachefriends.org/f/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=67494 http://community.apachefriends.org/f/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=67...
  - jbeja 13y ago
    I would like to participated in that :(.
stusmall 13y ago
XAMPP has a special place in my heart. It makes getting up and running with a web server on any platform a 5min affair. I still point people who want to teach themselves programming and might get discouraged with something with a high barrier of entry to PHP and XAMPP. I know PHP gets no love on this site but getting that instant feed back from a "hello world" and a clear path forward to more complex programs goes a long way to keep true beginner coming back for more.
- rdudek 13y ago
  I love XAMPP and I use it extensively for testing on a local machine. I wish they could bundle it with Ruby on Rails.
  - crimsonalucard 13y ago
    I've never used rails but don't those types of frameworks come with some sort of even more simplified dev server anyway?
  - ridruejo 13y ago
    Try http://BitNami.com/stack/ruby http://BitNami.com/stack/ruby for similar installers
frik 13y ago
I want to say thank you for providing XAMPP! I especially like the control panel windows app and the portable edition. Keep up the good work.
- ridruejo 13y ago
  Thanks! We put a lot of work into it and glad people appreciate it :)
varkson 13y ago
It's a very practical site, but the colour scheme is ass. Massive upgrade from the old one mind you.

35 points by ridruejo 13y ago

ckdarby 13y ago

What is perl doing in this bundle >_>?

sea6ear 13y ago
Perl has always been in the bundle - at least as long as I've been using it. I used to use it as an easy way to get a Perl installation on windows that didn't need to use the registry. I remember one of the Apache Friends guys helping me by specifically creating a bash script to trim down the distribution to fit on a 100Mb zip disk (probably back in the early 2000s) so that I could have a portable web dev environment that I could use on the computers at my University. I've always had fond memories of ApacheFriends since that time.
jbeja 13y ago
It has been there forever is the last "P" in "XAMPP".

BlakePetersen 13y ago

Oh WOW! After kicking around the XAMPP docs for the last week, the difference is night and day. Literally, they were using a 600px fixed-width layout... with a baby as the home page icon? https://web.archive.org/web/20140123124247/http://www.apachefriends.org/en/index.html https://web.archive.org/web/20140123124247/http://www.apache... <-- Only thing missing is here is the dial-up connection

dmunoz 13y ago
So? It was functional. I hit the website just the other week to update my local XAMPP install, and didn't think for a second about the design. I don't rely on it much any more since I have a VPS, but I can use it test locally when my internet goes down (which unfortunately is getting to be too often lately.) The new design is nice looking, but I just checked and to download the portable version I am filtered through to the sourceforge.net page for the project, which I never enjoyed navigating. It's not that difficult, but it's more laborious that the direct link that used to be on the downloads page. Their download page is also very unclear at the moment. You don't know which link is 1.8.2 and which 1.8.3 without hovering over the link. How did that sneak by?
- BlakePetersen 13y ago
  As a consumer-facing corporate web developer, I am constantly thinking about the design decisions sites make and whether there's anything I can glean from the perceived approach. When spending my time on apachefriends.org this week, it was always on my mind, especially with the narrow layout and that baby icon (seriously spent 5 minutes thinking... 'but... why?'). Unfortunately, I am required to code on a windows machine for my current 9 to 5, so I am fairly limited as to what tools I have to get a LAMP stack up and running quickly and locally. So, XAMPP is my homie for now and it's site is one I kick around from time to time, especially when trying to figure out how to turn off AsychDNS in the curl library (yea... you have to rebuild the lib... fun stuff). Regarding the download pages, I feel the versioning makes sense if you assume the higher XAMPP version correlates to the higher PHP version, which makes sense to me.
  - ridruejo 13y ago
    The site design had not changed over literally 10 years (ouch). Current one is not perfect, we will continue to improve it as time permits, but hopefully it is an improvement

frik 13y ago

Where is the download link to the portable edition?? Please consider adding the ZIP-archive again (portable ed.). (I found it browsing the sourceforge archive, but that's painful)

dmunoz 13y ago
I just complained about that in reply to another comment. I understand that they don't want to have a bunch of links on the download page, but I wish the "More Downloads" link expanded inline with direct links to the most popular downloads (portable versions, and please put the .7z there alongside the .zip) instead of having to make three additional clicks on sourceforge. Also, the provided links are not even clear about which version you are downloading. You don't know which is 1.8.2 and which 1.8.3 without hovering over the link.
- ridruejo 13y ago
  Thanks for the feedback, we will fix the links
  - ridruejo 13y ago
    The links are fixed now, we will work on the "More downloads" side of things

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dangrossman 13y ago

It was designed by contest -- http://99designs.com/web-design/contests/re-design-apache-friends-xampp-website-reach-millions-267884 http://99designs.com/web-design/contests/re-design-apache-fr...

ridruejo 13y ago
Correct. Here is the original announcement http://community.apachefriends.org/f/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=67494 http://community.apachefriends.org/f/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=67...
- jbeja 13y ago
  I would like to participated in that :(.

stusmall 13y ago

XAMPP has a special place in my heart. It makes getting up and running with a web server on any platform a 5min affair. I still point people who want to teach themselves programming and might get discouraged with something with a high barrier of entry to PHP and XAMPP. I know PHP gets no love on this site but getting that instant feed back from a "hello world" and a clear path forward to more complex programs goes a long way to keep true beginner coming back for more.

rdudek 13y ago
I love XAMPP and I use it extensively for testing on a local machine. I wish they could bundle it with Ruby on Rails.
- crimsonalucard 13y ago
  I've never used rails but don't those types of frameworks come with some sort of even more simplified dev server anyway?
- ridruejo 13y ago
  Try http://BitNami.com/stack/ruby http://BitNami.com/stack/ruby for similar installers

frik 13y ago

I want to say thank you for providing XAMPP! I especially like the control panel windows app and the portable edition. Keep up the good work.

ridruejo 13y ago
Thanks! We put a lot of work into it and glad people appreciate it :)

varkson 13y ago

It's a very practical site, but the colour scheme is ass. Massive upgrade from the old one mind you.