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Having grown up in the midwest, one of the main things keeping me from moving back (besides particularities of jobs/etc.) is the weather. Really really cold win

by mjn 13y ago

Having grown up in the midwest, one of the main things keeping me from moving back (besides particularities of jobs/etc.) is the weather. Really really cold winters, hot & humid summers. Nice springs and autumns, though, if I could arrange to be somewhere else Dec-Feb and June-Aug. I'd pay a premium to live somewhere with a longer "nice to be outdoors" season, though how much of a premium is a good question. I actually live in Scandinavia now, and the winters here are warm in comparison!

SomeCallMeTim 13y ago
I live near Boulder, one of the "hot" cities to create a start-up. In December Inc. magazine named it the top city for start-ups in fact. [1] Winters are only occasionally cold (it hit the 60s twice in the last week, and typically we get "warm" stretches throughout the winter, with only a couple of weeks of hard cold) and summers are dry. And a friend of mine just bought a 3-bedroom house near here for ~$90k (about 30 minutes from downtown Boulder). My neighborhood (not in Boulder) goes for 3x that, and Boulder proper goes from twice that up to SF-level prices ($4.3M for a condo [2]), depending on the exact part of Boulder. There's a crazy steep price gradient. On the other hand you can buy a 2 bedroom mobile home for less than $30k and live IN Boulder, if you want to really operate on a shoestring. [3] Depends on how you want to spend your money. :) [1] http://www.inc.com/magazine/201312/boulder-colorado-fast-growing-business.html http://www.inc.com/magazine/201312/boulder-colorado-fast-gro... [2] http://is.gd/MPZl88 http://is.gd/MPZl88 -- the most expensive condo in Boulder as of today, according to Zillow. You can get into the $10's of millions for a house. But you can also pay less than a half million for a house. Like I said above, crazy price gradient. [3] http://boulder.craigslist.org/reo/4275249378.html http://boulder.craigslist.org/reo/4275249378.html
nextos 13y ago
Oh, really? I'm living in Scandinavia and looking to move elsewhere. Midwest was one of my options, and I had never thought winters were so bad over there!
- doorhammer 13y ago
  Good idea of what it looks like in St Louis: http://weatherspark.com/averages/31697/St-Louis-Missouri-United-States http://weatherspark.com/averages/31697/St-Louis-Missouri-Uni... Humidity was always the killer for me. I remember flying from San Diego to St. Louis. It was 75 degrees and dry in San Diego, and 102 degrees with 94% humidity in St. Louis. I wanted to die, heh That said, I always liked the variety. It means that I have pretty strong, nostalgic feelings associated with the seasons changing.
  - nextos 13y ago
    Oh, variety is good. Weather here in Denmark is so plain and boring. The only remarkable season is May-July, thanks to the long days and relatively warm weather. I totally agree humidity is horrible. I've stayed a few summers in The Hamptons, Long Island---and humidity was a killer. I cannot imagine coping with 102 F / 94%.
    - doorhammer 13y ago
      Yeah, 102 wasn't normal. It just stuck out most in my mind because it was pretty literally seared into my brain, and the contrast to cali didn't help :) I cycled twenty or thirty miles a day pretty consistently and it never ceased to amaze me how quickly my shirt would become a sopping wet rag the second I stopped
  - fractalsea 13y ago
    That site is a brilliant resource. Thanks for sharing. One of my main considerations when moving somewhere is the climate. It would be cool if the site had links to places with similar climates (could be calculated with some kind of distance metric from all the variables). I loved the climate in Sydney, so it would be nice to see a list of places in the world where it's similar.
    - doorhammer 13y ago
      No problem. That's actually the first time I've seen it as well, and it seems to have pretty much all the information I'd like about climate. And yeah, I've never looked around for one, but being able to search for cities within similar bounds would be nice. Makes me wonder if there are national weather databases you could use to perform your own queries and get similar results.
doorhammer 13y ago
I moved from St. Louis to Atlanta and I kind of miss having a cold winter with snow (though Atlanta's gotten pretty frickin cold this winter) Humidity sucks though, heh. I actually really miss St. Louis
colanderman 13y ago
To SomeCallMeTim: you useful comment shows up dead for me. Perhaps you have been unfairly hellbanned?

by mjn 13y ago

SomeCallMeTim 13y ago

I live near Boulder, one of the "hot" cities to create a start-up. In December Inc. magazine named it the top city for start-ups in fact. [1] Winters are only occasionally cold (it hit the 60s twice in the last week, and typically we get "warm" stretches throughout the winter, with only a couple of weeks of hard cold) and summers are dry. And a friend of mine just bought a 3-bedroom house near here for ~$90k (about 30 minutes from downtown Boulder). My neighborhood (not in Boulder) goes for 3x that, and Boulder proper goes from twice that up to SF-level prices ($4.3M for a condo [2]), depending on the exact part of Boulder. There's a crazy steep price gradient. On the other hand you can buy a 2 bedroom mobile home for less than $30k and live IN Boulder, if you want to really operate on a shoestring. [3] Depends on how you want to spend your money. :) [1] http://www.inc.com/magazine/201312/boulder-colorado-fast-growing-business.html http://www.inc.com/magazine/201312/boulder-colorado-fast-gro... [2] http://is.gd/MPZl88 http://is.gd/MPZl88 -- the most expensive condo in Boulder as of today, according to Zillow. You can get into the $10's of millions for a house. But you can also pay less than a half million for a house. Like I said above, crazy price gradient. [3] http://boulder.craigslist.org/reo/4275249378.html http://boulder.craigslist.org/reo/4275249378.html

nextos 13y ago

Oh, really? I'm living in Scandinavia and looking to move elsewhere. Midwest was one of my options, and I had never thought winters were so bad over there!

doorhammer 13y ago
Good idea of what it looks like in St Louis: http://weatherspark.com/averages/31697/St-Louis-Missouri-United-States http://weatherspark.com/averages/31697/St-Louis-Missouri-Uni... Humidity was always the killer for me. I remember flying from San Diego to St. Louis. It was 75 degrees and dry in San Diego, and 102 degrees with 94% humidity in St. Louis. I wanted to die, heh That said, I always liked the variety. It means that I have pretty strong, nostalgic feelings associated with the seasons changing.
- nextos 13y ago
  Oh, variety is good. Weather here in Denmark is so plain and boring. The only remarkable season is May-July, thanks to the long days and relatively warm weather. I totally agree humidity is horrible. I've stayed a few summers in The Hamptons, Long Island---and humidity was a killer. I cannot imagine coping with 102 F / 94%.
  - doorhammer 13y ago
    Yeah, 102 wasn't normal. It just stuck out most in my mind because it was pretty literally seared into my brain, and the contrast to cali didn't help :) I cycled twenty or thirty miles a day pretty consistently and it never ceased to amaze me how quickly my shirt would become a sopping wet rag the second I stopped
- fractalsea 13y ago
  That site is a brilliant resource. Thanks for sharing. One of my main considerations when moving somewhere is the climate. It would be cool if the site had links to places with similar climates (could be calculated with some kind of distance metric from all the variables). I loved the climate in Sydney, so it would be nice to see a list of places in the world where it's similar.
  - doorhammer 13y ago
    No problem. That's actually the first time I've seen it as well, and it seems to have pretty much all the information I'd like about climate. And yeah, I've never looked around for one, but being able to search for cities within similar bounds would be nice. Makes me wonder if there are national weather databases you could use to perform your own queries and get similar results.

doorhammer 13y ago

I moved from St. Louis to Atlanta and I kind of miss having a cold winter with snow (though Atlanta's gotten pretty frickin cold this winter) Humidity sucks though, heh. I actually really miss St. Louis

colanderman 13y ago

To SomeCallMeTim: you useful comment shows up dead for me. Perhaps you have been unfairly hellbanned?