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Doable in a browser extension, possibly

by Torn 13y ago

viach 13y ago
With a browser extension you can integrate crypto tipping into every website. (Did i just missed my chance to create a startup? Investors, anyone? :)
- paromi 13y ago
  its a good ideea, but maybe it should be something on a site, installing an extension is not that easy and straight forward. like a tipping website (online wallet) , by username , or email
  - viach 13y ago
    >> is not that easy and straight forward It's as easy as clicking "install" i think. The extension itself is not complex to implement at all and it could be done in a week or so. The backend is a different story.
- mrfusion 13y ago
  I'd be up for working on that. I had the same idea a few weeks ago. Drop me a line if interested.
  - adrianwaj 13y ago
    Checkout an idea I made above. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7119770 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7119770 I'd be interested to help.
- eric_bullington 13y ago
  With a browser extension you could intercept actual HN upvotes. The tricky part is the feedback, since that's one of the most valued and also despised parts of a tipping system. Some people really like to see how much others tip, and others hate the "noise". It could be that only those who have installed the extension would see how much others are tipping (via discrete text appended somewhere near username).
  - gfodor 13y ago
    don't forget about the onboarding process. if user A tips user B some doge, how do you notify user B and get their wallet set up? you either a) have to assume user B will notice and reach out pro-actively (unlikely) or b) have to have a way to contact user B. on HN, the best avenue is likely to assume their HN handle is the same as their twitter handle, so you can send them an @ message on twitter. (and have a verification setup via having them put a token in their HN profile.) ad hoc testing shows that some non-trivial % of hn users this works. but it isn't enough for it to be a strong assumption, you'd need a plan B. also, if you build something where tips are not public (which likely would get the extension banned anyway from pg, since it would clutter up the comments) then you literally have no possible way for user B to get setup sans the twitter trick, since they won't see the tip either. the other way to do it is to make it so you can only tip other users who have the plugin installed. but this kills off the network effects and i'd guess the thing would be DOA after it drops off the front page. (yeah, I thought of this too a while ago but abandoned the idea :))
  - eric_bullington 13y ago
    gfodor: I've thought of a clever, easy way to send the coins to new users that doesn't require a sign-up. But I still don't know how to notify new users, unless they've already installed the extension. Your idea of Twitter handles is a good hack, but as you point out, it misses a non-trivial number of users. Hmm... PS: By the way, to viach, mrfussion, and gfodor: I've already got a backend system built using Tornado and ZeroMQ for a Bitcoin POS that could be adapted to this scenario fairly easily, and it would scale well. But how to notify new users without pissing everyone else off....
    - mrfusion 13y ago
      My philosophy is that when you're giving people free money you shouldn't have to make much effort to notify them. If people want the money let them come to you. If it's unclaimed after a year the policy could be that you'd donate it to charity. Which would keep with the spirit of tipping. (Or unclaimed funds could be divided between existing users each year, or returned.) There are lots of things you could do. Another interesting idea is to have a finders fee. So If an existing user helps track down the owner of an unclaimed account, they get a fee like 10%.

Doable in a browser extension, possibly

by Torn 13y ago

Doable in a browser extension, possibly

viach 13y ago

With a browser extension you can integrate crypto tipping into every website. (Did i just missed my chance to create a startup? Investors, anyone? :)

paromi 13y ago
its a good ideea, but maybe it should be something on a site, installing an extension is not that easy and straight forward. like a tipping website (online wallet) , by username , or email
- viach 13y ago
  >> is not that easy and straight forward It's as easy as clicking "install" i think. The extension itself is not complex to implement at all and it could be done in a week or so. The backend is a different story.
mrfusion 13y ago
I'd be up for working on that. I had the same idea a few weeks ago. Drop me a line if interested.
- adrianwaj 13y ago
  Checkout an idea I made above. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7119770 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7119770 I'd be interested to help.
eric_bullington 13y ago
With a browser extension you could intercept actual HN upvotes. The tricky part is the feedback, since that's one of the most valued and also despised parts of a tipping system. Some people really like to see how much others tip, and others hate the "noise". It could be that only those who have installed the extension would see how much others are tipping (via discrete text appended somewhere near username).
- gfodor 13y ago
  don't forget about the onboarding process. if user A tips user B some doge, how do you notify user B and get their wallet set up? you either a) have to assume user B will notice and reach out pro-actively (unlikely) or b) have to have a way to contact user B. on HN, the best avenue is likely to assume their HN handle is the same as their twitter handle, so you can send them an @ message on twitter. (and have a verification setup via having them put a token in their HN profile.) ad hoc testing shows that some non-trivial % of hn users this works. but it isn't enough for it to be a strong assumption, you'd need a plan B. also, if you build something where tips are not public (which likely would get the extension banned anyway from pg, since it would clutter up the comments) then you literally have no possible way for user B to get setup sans the twitter trick, since they won't see the tip either. the other way to do it is to make it so you can only tip other users who have the plugin installed. but this kills off the network effects and i'd guess the thing would be DOA after it drops off the front page. (yeah, I thought of this too a while ago but abandoned the idea :))
- eric_bullington 13y ago
  gfodor: I've thought of a clever, easy way to send the coins to new users that doesn't require a sign-up. But I still don't know how to notify new users, unless they've already installed the extension. Your idea of Twitter handles is a good hack, but as you point out, it misses a non-trivial number of users. Hmm... PS: By the way, to viach, mrfussion, and gfodor: I've already got a backend system built using Tornado and ZeroMQ for a Bitcoin POS that could be adapted to this scenario fairly easily, and it would scale well. But how to notify new users without pissing everyone else off....
  - mrfusion 13y ago
    My philosophy is that when you're giving people free money you shouldn't have to make much effort to notify them. If people want the money let them come to you. If it's unclaimed after a year the policy could be that you'd donate it to charity. Which would keep with the spirit of tipping. (Or unclaimed funds could be divided between existing users each year, or returned.) There are lots of things you could do. Another interesting idea is to have a finders fee. So If an existing user helps track down the owner of an unclaimed account, they get a fee like 10%.