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Will HN ever integrate Doge tips?

by viach 13y ago

mrfusion 13y ago
I think we should. What would it take? I think it can be done by a third party, no? It wouldn't require any changes on the HN code.
- vezzy-fnord 13y ago
  If HN is ever going to include a cryptocurrency tipping system (spoiler alert: it won't), why should it integrate Dogecoin?
  - viach 13y ago
    Why not? PS. Spoilers break the intrigue.
- Torn 13y ago
  Doable in a browser extension, possibly
  - viach 13y ago
    With a browser extension you can integrate crypto tipping into every website. (Did i just missed my chance to create a startup? Investors, anyone? :)
    - paromi 13y ago
      its a good ideea, but maybe it should be something on a site, installing an extension is not that easy and straight forward. like a tipping website (online wallet) , by username , or email
      - viach 13y ago
        >> is not that easy and straight forward It's as easy as clicking "install" i think. The extension itself is not complex to implement at all and it could be done in a week or so. The backend is a different story.
    - mrfusion 13y ago
      I'd be up for working on that. I had the same idea a few weeks ago. Drop me a line if interested.
      - adrianwaj 13y ago
        Checkout an idea I made above. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7119770 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7119770 I'd be interested to help.
    - eric_bullington 13y ago
      With a browser extension you could intercept actual HN upvotes. The tricky part is the feedback, since that's one of the most valued and also despised parts of a tipping system. Some people really like to see how much others tip, and others hate the "noise". It could be that only those who have installed the extension would see how much others are tipping (via discrete text appended somewhere near username).
      - gfodor 13y ago
        don't forget about the onboarding process. if user A tips user B some doge, how do you notify user B and get their wallet set up? you either a) have to assume user B will notice and reach out pro-actively (unlikely) or b) have to have a way to contact user B. on HN, the best avenue is likely to assume their HN handle is the same as their twitter handle, so you can send them an @ message on twitter. (and have a verification setup via having them put a token in their HN profile.) ad hoc testing shows that some non-trivial % of hn users this works. but it isn't enough for it to be a strong assumption, you'd need a plan B. also, if you build something where tips are not public (which likely would get the extension banned anyway from pg, since it would clutter up the comments) then you literally have no possible way for user B to get setup sans the twitter trick, since they won't see the tip either. the other way to do it is to make it so you can only tip other users who have the plugin installed. but this kills off the network effects and i'd guess the thing would be DOA after it drops off the front page. (yeah, I thought of this too a while ago but abandoned the idea :))
      - eric_bullington 13y ago
        gfodor: I've thought of a clever, easy way to send the coins to new users that doesn't require a sign-up. But I still don't know how to notify new users, unless they've already installed the extension. Your idea of Twitter handles is a good hack, but as you point out, it misses a non-trivial number of users. Hmm... PS: By the way, to viach, mrfussion, and gfodor: I've already got a backend system built using Tornado and ZeroMQ for a Bitcoin POS that could be adapted to this scenario fairly easily, and it would scale well. But how to notify new users without pissing everyone else off....
qznc 13y ago
I want a HN without voting, but only tipping.
- aaron-lebo 13y ago
  I was actually playing around with this idea. You think it would get used? I'm also slightly torn on whether each upvote should just be equivalent to like $.01 in doge or let people tip whatever they want. I have a good idea of how to make it happen just not sure it is worth spending time on.
- gwern 13y ago
  One of the interesting early Bitcoin websites was basically that: a micropayment Reddit called Witcoin https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Witcoin https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Witcoin I used it for a bit. It was actually fairly nice, but it never picked up much traction and was shut down years ago.

Will HN ever integrate Doge tips?

by viach 13y ago

Will HN ever integrate Doge tips?

I think we should. What would it take? I think it can be done by a third party, no? It wouldn't require any changes on the HN code.

vezzy-fnord 13y ago
If HN is ever going to include a cryptocurrency tipping system (spoiler alert: it won't), why should it integrate Dogecoin?
- viach 13y ago
  Why not? PS. Spoilers break the intrigue.
Torn 13y ago
Doable in a browser extension, possibly
- viach 13y ago
  With a browser extension you can integrate crypto tipping into every website. (Did i just missed my chance to create a startup? Investors, anyone? :)
  - paromi 13y ago
    its a good ideea, but maybe it should be something on a site, installing an extension is not that easy and straight forward. like a tipping website (online wallet) , by username , or email
    - viach 13y ago
      >> is not that easy and straight forward It's as easy as clicking "install" i think. The extension itself is not complex to implement at all and it could be done in a week or so. The backend is a different story.
  - mrfusion 13y ago
    I'd be up for working on that. I had the same idea a few weeks ago. Drop me a line if interested.
    - adrianwaj 13y ago
      Checkout an idea I made above. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7119770 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7119770 I'd be interested to help.
  - eric_bullington 13y ago
    With a browser extension you could intercept actual HN upvotes. The tricky part is the feedback, since that's one of the most valued and also despised parts of a tipping system. Some people really like to see how much others tip, and others hate the "noise". It could be that only those who have installed the extension would see how much others are tipping (via discrete text appended somewhere near username).
    - gfodor 13y ago
      don't forget about the onboarding process. if user A tips user B some doge, how do you notify user B and get their wallet set up? you either a) have to assume user B will notice and reach out pro-actively (unlikely) or b) have to have a way to contact user B. on HN, the best avenue is likely to assume their HN handle is the same as their twitter handle, so you can send them an @ message on twitter. (and have a verification setup via having them put a token in their HN profile.) ad hoc testing shows that some non-trivial % of hn users this works. but it isn't enough for it to be a strong assumption, you'd need a plan B. also, if you build something where tips are not public (which likely would get the extension banned anyway from pg, since it would clutter up the comments) then you literally have no possible way for user B to get setup sans the twitter trick, since they won't see the tip either. the other way to do it is to make it so you can only tip other users who have the plugin installed. but this kills off the network effects and i'd guess the thing would be DOA after it drops off the front page. (yeah, I thought of this too a while ago but abandoned the idea :))
    - eric_bullington 13y ago
      gfodor: I've thought of a clever, easy way to send the coins to new users that doesn't require a sign-up. But I still don't know how to notify new users, unless they've already installed the extension. Your idea of Twitter handles is a good hack, but as you point out, it misses a non-trivial number of users. Hmm... PS: By the way, to viach, mrfussion, and gfodor: I've already got a backend system built using Tornado and ZeroMQ for a Bitcoin POS that could be adapted to this scenario fairly easily, and it would scale well. But how to notify new users without pissing everyone else off....

qznc 13y ago

I want a HN without voting, but only tipping.

aaron-lebo 13y ago
I was actually playing around with this idea. You think it would get used? I'm also slightly torn on whether each upvote should just be equivalent to like $.01 in doge or let people tip whatever they want. I have a good idea of how to make it happen just not sure it is worth spending time on.
gwern 13y ago
One of the interesting early Bitcoin websites was basically that: a micropayment Reddit called Witcoin https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Witcoin https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Witcoin I used it for a bit. It was actually fairly nice, but it never picked up much traction and was shut down years ago.