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Firms? This is targeting engineers. Engineers who have to go through shit like crunch months or deal with ageism.

by seivan 13y ago

jbl 13y ago
I'm guessing that most people who are taking the sort of violent action mentioned in the article probably don't understand that. That may be part of the problem. For most people outside of the tech field, all this technology is just a magic black box that is producing outsized wealth. There isn't a sense that people are doing work to produce this stuff.
walshemj 13y ago
well of course its easy to fire up sentiments against some one who is "different" rather than dealing with the substantive issue. This is just the "nationalist" strain in American politics for the 21's century and techies are an easy target as we are passive and put up with shit. If I where Google i would suggest to all the tech company's the they 1 shut down the shuttles 2 give every one a day off and suggest they use it for a mass lobby of the local politicians
- dkuntz2 13y ago
  Why? Shutting down the shuttles is only going to "prove" to the protesters that their protests are working, which will lead to them trying to go farther. Giving in to and placating the protesters isn't going to make them stop, it's just going to make them try for more, and potentially more outlandish, things.
  - walshemj 13y ago
    Having what 25/30k techies turn up at sf town hall in a mass in person lobby wont make a point? You could also do a french solution and have all the shuttle drivers drive their buses into central Sf and shut traffic down.
    - dkuntz2 13y ago
      Lobby for what though? That requires a group of typically complacent people (in this context) to come together to say "something is wrong", and point to a specific thing. And they'd probably be asked to offer some solutions. The problem is that there really isn't a problem. Non-techies are angry that rent is getting higher and that the local government isn't going to loosen restrictions. From what I can tell the techies don't have a problem with the rent, because they can pay for it, or are moving to places they can pay for because they don't have some ridiculous attraction to a specific location. It seems to me to be entirely one-sided, and the techies don't care, they'll just wait it out.

Firms? This is targeting engineers. Engineers who have to go through shit like crunch months or deal with ageism.

by seivan 13y ago

Firms? This is targeting engineers. Engineers who have to go through shit like crunch months or deal with ageism.

jbl 13y ago

I'm guessing that most people who are taking the sort of violent action mentioned in the article probably don't understand that. That may be part of the problem. For most people outside of the tech field, all this technology is just a magic black box that is producing outsized wealth. There isn't a sense that people are doing work to produce this stuff.

walshemj 13y ago

well of course its easy to fire up sentiments against some one who is "different" rather than dealing with the substantive issue. This is just the "nationalist" strain in American politics for the 21's century and techies are an easy target as we are passive and put up with shit. If I where Google i would suggest to all the tech company's the they 1 shut down the shuttles 2 give every one a day off and suggest they use it for a mass lobby of the local politicians

dkuntz2 13y ago
Why? Shutting down the shuttles is only going to "prove" to the protesters that their protests are working, which will lead to them trying to go farther. Giving in to and placating the protesters isn't going to make them stop, it's just going to make them try for more, and potentially more outlandish, things.
- walshemj 13y ago
  Having what 25/30k techies turn up at sf town hall in a mass in person lobby wont make a point? You could also do a french solution and have all the shuttle drivers drive their buses into central Sf and shut traffic down.
  - dkuntz2 13y ago
    Lobby for what though? That requires a group of typically complacent people (in this context) to come together to say "something is wrong", and point to a specific thing. And they'd probably be asked to offer some solutions. The problem is that there really isn't a problem. Non-techies are angry that rent is getting higher and that the local government isn't going to loosen restrictions. From what I can tell the techies don't have a problem with the rent, because they can pay for it, or are moving to places they can pay for because they don't have some ridiculous attraction to a specific location. It seems to me to be entirely one-sided, and the techies don't care, they'll just wait it out.