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This looks nice, but I'm not sure the solution to the overwhelming amount of content out there is more curation. I can't see myself having the time to build the

by robbles 13y ago

This looks nice, but I'm not sure the solution to the overwhelming amount of content out there is more curation. I can't see myself having the time to build the perfect set of "troves". Instead, I'd like to see more automated filtering of the many streams I already have. I think Summify was on the right track here (before they were acquired).

pit 13y ago
I couldn't agree more. The curated internet is a terrible trend -- it encourages mindless, constant, and immediate consumption and discourages exploration (except safely between the lines of your preferred content aggregator).
- codezero 13y ago
  I agree. What things or kinds of things go against this trend?
  - pit 13y ago
    I wish I had more examples, but all I can really think of is the fact that sites still offer RSS feeds for reading articles.
    - codezero 13y ago
      Yeah, it's hard to come up with good examples. RSS itself isn't even a great exploration mechanism for finding stuff outside of a single site. Thinking back to the good old days, my main forms of discovery were IRC, Usenet (with its underlying structure it made it easy to dig into weird/different niches at will)... A few things were consistent about these mechanisms: Each one allowed you to start in a specific niche/community, explore outside of it and become entrenched in wider/more diverse communities/interests. They had some basic structure (channels on IRC, top level groups on Usenet), some form of curation/moderation (channel operators, news server admins who could white/blacklist content, rules/guidelines about cross-posting, some proactive moves against spam/off topic trolling), but ultimately were "open." Anyone could get their foot in with some basic software, anyone could add their voice, and engage either with a group of people or one-on-one.
      - pit 13y ago
        Oh, sorry -- I thought you were talking about ways to subscribe to stories/articles, rather than forms of discovery. These days, about 70% of my exploration online starts at HN. There's a bit from Kottke and Coudal, a couple of Twitter feeds, and various music labels (Stone's Throw, Mad Decent). Is Delicious the answer? It's got tags for bookmarks _and_ discovery -- there go two of the HN front page stories from this past week. Remap Ctrl-D in Chrome, and I don't think you'll find a better, more open solution for the Web out there.

by robbles 13y ago

pit 13y ago

I couldn't agree more. The curated internet is a terrible trend -- it encourages mindless, constant, and immediate consumption and discourages exploration (except safely between the lines of your preferred content aggregator).

codezero 13y ago
I agree. What things or kinds of things go against this trend?
- pit 13y ago
  I wish I had more examples, but all I can really think of is the fact that sites still offer RSS feeds for reading articles.
  - codezero 13y ago
    Yeah, it's hard to come up with good examples. RSS itself isn't even a great exploration mechanism for finding stuff outside of a single site. Thinking back to the good old days, my main forms of discovery were IRC, Usenet (with its underlying structure it made it easy to dig into weird/different niches at will)... A few things were consistent about these mechanisms: Each one allowed you to start in a specific niche/community, explore outside of it and become entrenched in wider/more diverse communities/interests. They had some basic structure (channels on IRC, top level groups on Usenet), some form of curation/moderation (channel operators, news server admins who could white/blacklist content, rules/guidelines about cross-posting, some proactive moves against spam/off topic trolling), but ultimately were "open." Anyone could get their foot in with some basic software, anyone could add their voice, and engage either with a group of people or one-on-one.
    - pit 13y ago
      Oh, sorry -- I thought you were talking about ways to subscribe to stories/articles, rather than forms of discovery. These days, about 70% of my exploration online starts at HN. There's a bit from Kottke and Coudal, a couple of Twitter feeds, and various music labels (Stone's Throw, Mad Decent). Is Delicious the answer? It's got tags for bookmarks _and_ discovery -- there go two of the HN front page stories from this past week. Remap Ctrl-D in Chrome, and I don't think you'll find a better, more open solution for the Web out there.