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I disagree. There are rather huge gaps between Berlin vs. cities like Frankfurt or Munich. Living costs are much lower in Berlin, and so naturally, wages are lo
by _ak 13y ago
I disagree. There are rather huge gaps between Berlin vs. cities like Frankfurt or Munich. Living costs are much lower in Berlin, and so naturally, wages are lower, too.
- Argorak 13y agoTake this statement with a grain of salt. Living costs are shooting up dramatically, currently.
- _ak 13y agoStill nowhere near e.g. Munich, and it really only shoots up in the hip, stylish neighborhoods. I've lived in Berlin for 5 years now, in a not-so-cool but still reasonably central area (Moabit), and rents have barely gone up during that time. I've also spoken to quite a few recruiters in recent years, and many of them were quite blunt that jobs in cities like Frankfurt, Munich or Hamburg usually get you 10-20 % higher salaries compared to Berlin, same kind of tasks, same skills required.
- Xylakant 13y agoRents have gone up, but there's still a lot of things that are dramatically cheaper in Berlin than in Munich - just go out for lunch for example.
- k__ 13y agoBut jobs which pay 100k in Munich should also pay 100k in Berlin. If you make more than 60k the living costs aren't much of a concern for you anymore.
- Xylakant 13y ago> But jobs which pay 100k in Munich should also pay 100k in Berlin. Why? It's a function of supply and demand - for a long time a lot of people wanted to move to Berlin because it was cool, hip and cheap to live. So there was a steady supply of people wanting to work and live in Berlin, driving prices down for employers and since living in Berlin was (and still is) cheaper than Munich it was economically viable for employees to take a lower salary in Berlin and still come out ahead financially. Things changed a little since costs are converging a little, but as prices went up, salaries went up as well.
- earllee 13y agoBut you'll have a different amount of surplus money, since living costs might cost, 50k in Munich but only 40k in Berlin.
- Argorak 13y agoThat would assume that salary is a pure function of the work you do. Berlin has certain advantages for tech employers: * It is an expat-friendly city * Nightlife is great, if you like the makeshift style * It is the epicenter of the german hacker community * Costs of living are still lower All these are soft factors are opportunities for employers to haggle prices down.
- eik3_de 13y agosome data on wages+prices in Berlin/Frankfurt/Munich from 2012: http://www.ubs.com/global/en/wealth_management/wealth_management_research/prices_earnings.html http://www.ubs.com/global/en/wealth_management/wealth_manage...
- _ak 13y agoThanks!