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That's not an "issue" with being a male elementary school teacher, that's just too many men being pedophiles.

barry-cotter 13y ago
I regret I have but one downvote to give. This guy really thinks that all male primary school teachers should be presumed paedophiles unless proven otherwise. Or maybe a more charitable interpretation would be that paedophilia is a normal male thing. Either way this person makes Mary Rosh look like a decent human being.
- detcader 13y ago
  Not sure how you got any of that from what I said. The public image of the pedophile is male for a reason. "Most sexual offenders against children are male" (Lisa J. Cohen, PhD and Igor Galynker, MD, PhD (2009-06-08). "Psychopathology and Personality Traits of Pedophiles". Psychiatric Times.) If pedophilia was as common in men as it is in women, no one would be stigmatized. On the other hand, women in programming face problems, marginalization, violence, from men, just for being women. But if you didn't understand that initially I doubt you will 15 minutes later.
  - smsm42 13y ago
    I wonder if statistical approach is ok to apply to only men or everybody? E.g. if group X statistically commits more crimes, proportionally, than its share in population, is it ok to presume every X is a criminal unless proven otherwise? If group Y statistically produces more false statements on topic T, is it ok to assume, unless very strong evidence to contrary is given, that any statement of a member of group Y about topic T is false by default? >>> just for being women. And this is different from you justifying stigmatizing every male as potential pedophile by statistics - how exactly?
    - detcader 13y ago
      "is it ok to presume every X is a criminal unless proven otherwise" I never said this? I don't think that men should be assumed to be criminals.
      - smsm42 13y ago
        You supported the idea that men are stigmatized as criminals by providing statistics that criminals are encountered among men. I am just asking if that applies to any criteria and any group.

I regret I have but one downvote to give. This guy really thinks that all male primary school teachers should be presumed paedophiles unless proven otherwise. Or maybe a more charitable interpretation would be that paedophilia is a normal male thing. Either way this person makes Mary Rosh look like a decent human being.

detcader 13y ago
Not sure how you got any of that from what I said. The public image of the pedophile is male for a reason. "Most sexual offenders against children are male" (Lisa J. Cohen, PhD and Igor Galynker, MD, PhD (2009-06-08). "Psychopathology and Personality Traits of Pedophiles". Psychiatric Times.) If pedophilia was as common in men as it is in women, no one would be stigmatized. On the other hand, women in programming face problems, marginalization, violence, from men, just for being women. But if you didn't understand that initially I doubt you will 15 minutes later.
- smsm42 13y ago
  I wonder if statistical approach is ok to apply to only men or everybody? E.g. if group X statistically commits more crimes, proportionally, than its share in population, is it ok to presume every X is a criminal unless proven otherwise? If group Y statistically produces more false statements on topic T, is it ok to assume, unless very strong evidence to contrary is given, that any statement of a member of group Y about topic T is false by default? >>> just for being women. And this is different from you justifying stigmatizing every male as potential pedophile by statistics - how exactly?
  - detcader 13y ago
    "is it ok to presume every X is a criminal unless proven otherwise" I never said this? I don't think that men should be assumed to be criminals.
    - smsm42 13y ago
      You supported the idea that men are stigmatized as criminals by providing statistics that criminals are encountered among men. I am just asking if that applies to any criteria and any group.