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Setting OmniGraphSketcher Free

114 points by nickmain 13y ago

utopkara 13y ago
I adore Omni products. Looking forward to peeking under the hood in this one!
- vidarh 13y ago
  OmniGraffle is the only diagram editor I've ever been happy with. It's the one OS X app I'm annoyed to not have an equivalent for on my Linux box at home... It's amazing that Omni's products aren't copied / used as inspiration more - e.g. it's not that using OmniGraffle as a model for how the UI in a diagram editor ought to act would be all that hard... I wish the Dia guys would spent 10 minutes picking ideas from OmniGraffle, for example..
EvanMiller 13y ago
I've enjoyed watching the "arc" of GraphSketcher. I went to college with the original developer, who, upon being sufficiently annoyed with having to draw supply and demand curves by hand in Econ 101, wrote the code that eventually became OmniGraphSketcher. Classic itch-scratching if I've ever seen it. Robin later managed to turn the program into his master's thesis, a conference paper that won "Best Paper" (http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=1518870 http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=1518870), and an acquisition by the Omni Group, where he went on to develop the iPad version. He later left Omni, which is part of the reason that they decided to discontinue and (later) open-source the product. I'm look forward to seeing what people do with this code -- as well as what Robin might have up his sleeve next.
- radicalbyte 13y ago
  Robin's paper is available on his website, here: http://www.robinstewart.com/research/ http://www.robinstewart.com/research/ Or, a direct link: http://www.robinstewart.com/research/papers/stewart09graphsketcher.pdf http://www.robinstewart.com/research/papers/stewart09graphsk...
sytelus 13y ago
This a classic example of how to do bad statistics complete with nice charts. A fair and a much better metric would be dollar per hour per TB. Each of these companies manufacture drives in different classes of MTBF. For example WD has drive with 1 million hours of MTBF and they also have drive with 300K hours of MTBF (which is 30% cheaper). Higher MTBF translates to higher cost. In addition you want to make sure you had considered all the discounts. For example, it would be easy to buy WD drives in higher MTBF class lot more cheaper on wholesale prices or deals than Seagate drives without deals.
- samps 13y ago
  Maybe you meant to comment on the Backblaze blog post? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7095357 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7095357 Funny that you're talking about "nice charts," though. Exactly what OGS made.
carbocation 13y ago
The primary question I hoped to see answered in the post was who (ideally, which individual person) would become the open source repo's maintainer. Does anyone know?
meemo 13y ago
The first thing someone should contribute is Sparkle support https://github.com/andymatuschak/Sparkle/tree/master https://github.com/andymatuschak/Sparkle/tree/master
- protomyth 13y ago
  Is there a maintained version of Sparkle?
peapicker 13y ago
requires OS X 10.8... I'm not on mavericks yet. Can't be a good reason.
- maguay 13y ago
  That'd be Mountain Lion, then. Mavericks is 10.9.
- supercoder 13y ago
  Can't be a good reason you're not on Mavericks. It's free.
antonyme 13y ago
Awesome! Kudos to the Omni guys for opening up the code, rather than let it fall into obscurity. It will hopefully serve as a nice example of how to architect a professional app.
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114 points by nickmain 13y ago

utopkara 13y ago

I adore Omni products. Looking forward to peeking under the hood in this one!

vidarh 13y ago
OmniGraffle is the only diagram editor I've ever been happy with. It's the one OS X app I'm annoyed to not have an equivalent for on my Linux box at home... It's amazing that Omni's products aren't copied / used as inspiration more - e.g. it's not that using OmniGraffle as a model for how the UI in a diagram editor ought to act would be all that hard... I wish the Dia guys would spent 10 minutes picking ideas from OmniGraffle, for example..

EvanMiller 13y ago

I've enjoyed watching the "arc" of GraphSketcher. I went to college with the original developer, who, upon being sufficiently annoyed with having to draw supply and demand curves by hand in Econ 101, wrote the code that eventually became OmniGraphSketcher. Classic itch-scratching if I've ever seen it. Robin later managed to turn the program into his master's thesis, a conference paper that won "Best Paper" (http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=1518870 http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=1518870), and an acquisition by the Omni Group, where he went on to develop the iPad version. He later left Omni, which is part of the reason that they decided to discontinue and (later) open-source the product. I'm look forward to seeing what people do with this code -- as well as what Robin might have up his sleeve next.

radicalbyte 13y ago
Robin's paper is available on his website, here: http://www.robinstewart.com/research/ http://www.robinstewart.com/research/ Or, a direct link: http://www.robinstewart.com/research/papers/stewart09graphsketcher.pdf http://www.robinstewart.com/research/papers/stewart09graphsk...

sytelus 13y ago

This a classic example of how to do bad statistics complete with nice charts. A fair and a much better metric would be dollar per hour per TB. Each of these companies manufacture drives in different classes of MTBF. For example WD has drive with 1 million hours of MTBF and they also have drive with 300K hours of MTBF (which is 30% cheaper). Higher MTBF translates to higher cost. In addition you want to make sure you had considered all the discounts. For example, it would be easy to buy WD drives in higher MTBF class lot more cheaper on wholesale prices or deals than Seagate drives without deals.

samps 13y ago
Maybe you meant to comment on the Backblaze blog post? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7095357 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7095357 Funny that you're talking about "nice charts," though. Exactly what OGS made.

carbocation 13y ago

The primary question I hoped to see answered in the post was who (ideally, which individual person) would become the open source repo's maintainer. Does anyone know?

meemo 13y ago

The first thing someone should contribute is Sparkle support https://github.com/andymatuschak/Sparkle/tree/master https://github.com/andymatuschak/Sparkle/tree/master

protomyth 13y ago
Is there a maintained version of Sparkle?

peapicker 13y ago

requires OS X 10.8... I'm not on mavericks yet. Can't be a good reason.

maguay 13y ago
That'd be Mountain Lion, then. Mavericks is 10.9.
supercoder 13y ago
Can't be a good reason you're not on Mavericks. It's free.

antonyme 13y ago

Awesome! Kudos to the Omni guys for opening up the code, rather than let it fall into obscurity. It will hopefully serve as a nice example of how to architect a professional app.

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