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> Cool I am going to host the "Male Founders Conference" I feel like I've seen that conference before, many times. Don't get me wrong, there were some very goo

> Cool I am going to host the "Male Founders Conference" I feel like I've seen that conference before, many times. Don't get me wrong, there were some very good speakers. But if one is trying to differentiate, and try something fresh, an all women conference makes a lot of sense.

human_error 13y ago
> I feel like I've seen that conference before, many times. Really? Where? Could you please give an example?
- Tohhou 13y ago
  Silly males! The world is your conference!
- danilocampos 13y ago
  Uh, every single tech conference... ever?
  - rimantas 13y ago
    Every single tech conference did not allow girls? Really?
    - kyro 13y ago
      I've got a question for you. Blacks are incredibly underrepresented in the medical field (13% in the US population, 4% as physicians). Some believe it to be due to the damaging effects of medical experiments conducted on African Americans -- eg. the Tuskegee experiment where many were purposefully left untreated for syphilis despite the existence of a simple treatment (read: penicillin). Other reasons include the lack of African American physicians in the media, peer-pressure to pursue other career paths, and financial constraints. Bottom line: there is a racial disparity in the medical field, and those that are underrepresented have some very legitimate reservations for entering that industry. So, the question: Would you be against movements targeted towards Blacks/African Americans meant to both encourage them as well as address their many concerns regarding entering a career in medicine?
      - mcantelon 13y ago
        >Some believe it to be due to the damaging effects of medical experiments conducted on African Americans Or an even simpler explanation: medical education is expensive and many blacks (and members of other races) are working class. So perhaps scholarships tailored towards the economically disadvantaged, rather than any specific race, would address the disparity.
        kyro 13y ago
        High tuition is one reason, yes, but it isn't the entire story. Check out: - http://www.ama-assn.org/ama/pub/physician-resources/medical-ethics/about-ethics-group/institute-ethics/research-projects/the-history-african-americans-organized-medicine.page http://www.ama-assn.org/ama/pub/physician-resources/medical-... - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2575862/ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2575862/ - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9395587 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9395587
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        mcantelon 13y ago
        Interesting. In the abstracts of the two studies of the issue that you link to, one highlights financial concerns and the other ignores this factor.
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        Crake 13y ago
        But that would benefit poor people of all colors! We can't help out white people--1 homeless straight white male already has more privilege than ALL black millionaires COMBINED!
      - rimantas 13y ago
        To answer your question first: depends what you mean by "encourage". If it implies some "positive discrimination", quotas, etc. then yes, I'd be against it. Alas, I am afraid that is is already impossible to have rational discussion about anything involving race or gender. Race especially, but the gender is quickly reaching the same level of thought-stopping cliche. Say anything out of line with politcorrect white-knighty position and you will be labeled racist or sexist, and quite often by those who don't even know what those words really mean. On the other hand, white population is seriously underrepresented in the NBA (only 17% of players are white). Don't you thinks something must be done, and soon?

human_error 13y ago

> I feel like I've seen that conference before, many times. Really? Where? Could you please give an example?

Tohhou 13y ago
Silly males! The world is your conference!
danilocampos 13y ago
Uh, every single tech conference... ever?
- rimantas 13y ago
  Every single tech conference did not allow girls? Really?
  - kyro 13y ago
    I've got a question for you. Blacks are incredibly underrepresented in the medical field (13% in the US population, 4% as physicians). Some believe it to be due to the damaging effects of medical experiments conducted on African Americans -- eg. the Tuskegee experiment where many were purposefully left untreated for syphilis despite the existence of a simple treatment (read: penicillin). Other reasons include the lack of African American physicians in the media, peer-pressure to pursue other career paths, and financial constraints. Bottom line: there is a racial disparity in the medical field, and those that are underrepresented have some very legitimate reservations for entering that industry. So, the question: Would you be against movements targeted towards Blacks/African Americans meant to both encourage them as well as address their many concerns regarding entering a career in medicine?
    - mcantelon 13y ago
      >Some believe it to be due to the damaging effects of medical experiments conducted on African Americans Or an even simpler explanation: medical education is expensive and many blacks (and members of other races) are working class. So perhaps scholarships tailored towards the economically disadvantaged, rather than any specific race, would address the disparity.
      - kyro 13y ago
        High tuition is one reason, yes, but it isn't the entire story. Check out: - http://www.ama-assn.org/ama/pub/physician-resources/medical-ethics/about-ethics-group/institute-ethics/research-projects/the-history-african-americans-organized-medicine.page http://www.ama-assn.org/ama/pub/physician-resources/medical-... - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2575862/ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2575862/ - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9395587 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9395587
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        mcantelon 13y ago
        Interesting. In the abstracts of the two studies of the issue that you link to, one highlights financial concerns and the other ignores this factor.
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      - Crake 13y ago
        But that would benefit poor people of all colors! We can't help out white people--1 homeless straight white male already has more privilege than ALL black millionaires COMBINED!
    - rimantas 13y ago
      To answer your question first: depends what you mean by "encourage". If it implies some "positive discrimination", quotas, etc. then yes, I'd be against it. Alas, I am afraid that is is already impossible to have rational discussion about anything involving race or gender. Race especially, but the gender is quickly reaching the same level of thought-stopping cliche. Say anything out of line with politcorrect white-knighty position and you will be labeled racist or sexist, and quite often by those who don't even know what those words really mean. On the other hand, white population is seriously underrepresented in the NBA (only 17% of players are white). Don't you thinks something must be done, and soon?