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Do you mind explaining why? Providing contraception (especially condoms) can prevent STDs in addition to preventing unwanted child birth.

by btian 13y ago

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humanrebar 13y ago
Of the many replies to this post, this is the best response (so far) because it promotes discussion instead of trying to presume, argue, or pre-emptively invalidate sdegutis's opinion.
- sdegutis 13y ago
  I posted one of my reasons as a reply to my original comment, but I think it's going to get drowned out in all the requests for it. Irony?
  - Crito 13y ago
    That's not irony. That is just the expected result of not being forthright.
    - sdegutis 13y ago
      Lesson learned. Won't make that mistake again.
    - humanrebar 13y ago
      I think you mean forthcoming. I think he was initially fairly straightforward (forthright) about saying he didn't want to state his position (not being forthcoming). It's a pedantic point, but there are implications about the character of the person you're talking about.
      - sdegutis 13y ago
        Good point, although I didn't even notice, and I'm probably the one who could have taken offense at it. So I guess my ignorance worked out as a win this time?
sdegutis 13y ago
I can't. Not because I don't have legit reasoning (I'm convinced I do). But for a far more interesting reason: I'm one of the 0% in this community who hold this position. This means there's no chance for a fair debate. Socially speaking, I think this is far more interesting than my disagreement itself. EDIT: Ignore this, I have already responded. See the rest of the thread.
- nollidge 13y ago
  I assure you it's greater than 0.49%. It's not like programming is devoid of conversative Christians [0], for example. [0] not that you're necessarily in that demographic, but it's probably the one most likely to oppose contraceptives.
  - sdegutis 13y ago
    There are about 3 conservative Christians on HN.
- pathy 13y ago
  No, you are making your opinion seem far worse by not even bothering to explain your reasoning. You make it sound like you would be a victim. HN may be biased in it's views by and large but if you don't even try to explain yourself, you give the impression that you are even more ignorant of others views than the ~100% are of yours.
- ColinCochrane 13y ago
  There is no chance for fair debate if you avoid it because you assume there won't be a fair debate.
- dylandrop 13y ago
  So you're saying it's interesting that you assume your point will be shot down? Assuming the reception of your viewpoints HN does nothing except suggest that you don't really have any reasoning at all, but want to frame yourself as a victim.
- run4_too 13y ago

Do you mind explaining why? Providing contraception (especially condoms) can prevent STDs in addition to preventing unwanted child birth.

by btian 13y ago

Do you mind explaining why? Providing contraception (especially condoms) can prevent STDs in addition to preventing unwanted child birth.

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humanrebar 13y ago

Of the many replies to this post, this is the best response (so far) because it promotes discussion instead of trying to presume, argue, or pre-emptively invalidate sdegutis's opinion.

sdegutis 13y ago
I posted one of my reasons as a reply to my original comment, but I think it's going to get drowned out in all the requests for it. Irony?
- Crito 13y ago
  That's not irony. That is just the expected result of not being forthright.
  - sdegutis 13y ago
    Lesson learned. Won't make that mistake again.
  - humanrebar 13y ago
    I think you mean forthcoming. I think he was initially fairly straightforward (forthright) about saying he didn't want to state his position (not being forthcoming). It's a pedantic point, but there are implications about the character of the person you're talking about.
    - sdegutis 13y ago
      Good point, although I didn't even notice, and I'm probably the one who could have taken offense at it. So I guess my ignorance worked out as a win this time?

sdegutis 13y ago

I can't. Not because I don't have legit reasoning (I'm convinced I do). But for a far more interesting reason: I'm one of the 0% in this community who hold this position. This means there's no chance for a fair debate. Socially speaking, I think this is far more interesting than my disagreement itself. EDIT: Ignore this, I have already responded. See the rest of the thread.

nollidge 13y ago
I assure you it's greater than 0.49%. It's not like programming is devoid of conversative Christians [0], for example. [0] not that you're necessarily in that demographic, but it's probably the one most likely to oppose contraceptives.
- sdegutis 13y ago
  There are about 3 conservative Christians on HN.
pathy 13y ago
No, you are making your opinion seem far worse by not even bothering to explain your reasoning. You make it sound like you would be a victim. HN may be biased in it's views by and large but if you don't even try to explain yourself, you give the impression that you are even more ignorant of others views than the ~100% are of yours.
ColinCochrane 13y ago
There is no chance for fair debate if you avoid it because you assume there won't be a fair debate.
dylandrop 13y ago
So you're saying it's interesting that you assume your point will be shot down? Assuming the reception of your viewpoints HN does nothing except suggest that you don't really have any reasoning at all, but want to frame yourself as a victim.
run4_too 13y ago