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Go to a casino. You can play a 100% automated roulette machine, or the real thing at a table. Look which one has the most people around it. For at least this on

by nsxwolf 13y ago

Go to a casino. You can play a 100% automated roulette machine, or the real thing at a table. Look which one has the most people around it. For at least this one small example, people have already made the choice to prefer human labor.

TeMPOraL 13y ago
This is not human labor, this is human fun. We won't automate away thing we actually like to do.
- VLM 13y ago
  Which brings up the exploitative effect where in the long run, no one will have service sector jobs except cute young women in skimpy uniforms. Although I find "cute young women in skimpy uniforms" visually highly appealing, I'm not convinced that appealing to my base interests is a societal upgrade. Also a human provider of "fun" isn't necessarily having any fun at all, even if the consumers are.
  - JonnieCache 13y ago
    >no one will have service sector jobs except cute young women in skimpy uniforms. The category list on your local pornographic website begs to differ. The public have an infinite variety of tastes, the question is, do the markets have the imagination to serve them? EDIT: realised this doesn't really address your point, but it's still relevant so I'll leave it here.
    - VLM 13y ago
      Yeah the other problem is any desire can be fulfilled on the internet, but in meatspace look how rare gay bars are, and thats a pretty common variety of taste. Oh they exist, but the ratio is all off. Maybe I'll be really lucky once I'm ageism'd out of computers and I can become a waiter. But even on the internet not too many people are into mostly naked fat middle aged dudes, so figure the usual couple orders of magnitude off for meatspace and the odds of millions of guys like me getting jobs seems rather low. Another problem is the public can have any tastes, but the 1% is mostly elderly white dudes, and when they finally accumulate all the money instead of merely most of it like now, they have fairly conventional stereotypical tastes which ruins my chances of getting money from them.
  - Houshalter 13y ago
    That's not exploitative. If people want to pay women to be waitresses or whatever, let them. They are not harming anyone else.

by nsxwolf 13y ago

TeMPOraL 13y ago

This is not human labor, this is human fun. We won't automate away thing we actually like to do.

VLM 13y ago
Which brings up the exploitative effect where in the long run, no one will have service sector jobs except cute young women in skimpy uniforms. Although I find "cute young women in skimpy uniforms" visually highly appealing, I'm not convinced that appealing to my base interests is a societal upgrade. Also a human provider of "fun" isn't necessarily having any fun at all, even if the consumers are.
- JonnieCache 13y ago
  >no one will have service sector jobs except cute young women in skimpy uniforms. The category list on your local pornographic website begs to differ. The public have an infinite variety of tastes, the question is, do the markets have the imagination to serve them? EDIT: realised this doesn't really address your point, but it's still relevant so I'll leave it here.
  - VLM 13y ago
    Yeah the other problem is any desire can be fulfilled on the internet, but in meatspace look how rare gay bars are, and thats a pretty common variety of taste. Oh they exist, but the ratio is all off. Maybe I'll be really lucky once I'm ageism'd out of computers and I can become a waiter. But even on the internet not too many people are into mostly naked fat middle aged dudes, so figure the usual couple orders of magnitude off for meatspace and the odds of millions of guys like me getting jobs seems rather low. Another problem is the public can have any tastes, but the 1% is mostly elderly white dudes, and when they finally accumulate all the money instead of merely most of it like now, they have fairly conventional stereotypical tastes which ruins my chances of getting money from them.
- Houshalter 13y ago
  That's not exploitative. If people want to pay women to be waitresses or whatever, let them. They are not harming anyone else.