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" All the money, fame, and the joy of owning your own company..." Yeah, I think maybe you're the one that is slightly deluded. OP offered a realistic view of w

" All the money, fame, and the joy of owning your own company..." Yeah, I think maybe you're the one that is slightly deluded. OP offered a realistic view of what a coding job often implies, and why it might not be that glamorous to many women. You pretend they're all going to own their own company and make a ton of money.

vacri 13y ago
No, he didn't. He said "smart women choose not to go into coding. Leave that to us men to handle for you". Men hate the job? Really? Then why has Silicon Valley filled up with men from all over the world struggling to crowbar their way into it? Coding isn't a horrible job - if it was, you wouldn't have such high salaries and companies with anti-poaching arrangements to prevent further inflating those salaries. It was an extremely patronising comment, and seemed to verbally pat women as a demographic on the head. "I don't discriminate against applicants on gender, but hey girls, you don't want to apply anyway" The irritating thing is that you can only rarely group men or women together as being one way or the other. Once you get past primary and secondary sexual characteristics, there are no blanket statements which apply. Pick pretty much any blanket statement you like, and if you actually look at the men and women around you, you'll find plenty of exceptions. I actually think that the comment was a troll, but Poe's Law applies, and plenty of people will support his view.
- ChrisNorstrom 13y ago
  I originally thought his comment was sarcasm as well. His subconscious bias is making itself apparent and he's not consciously aware of it. Same with the other posters who replied to my comment. They're trying to disagree without actually making a point.
- boyaka 13y ago
  I see exceptions, true. But even more so I see the trend. I see exceptions becoming more rare.
  - vacri 13y ago
    Are you looking at all the people around you? Retirees? Homeless bums? Quiet, bookish people? The religiose? Conservatives, progressives, anarchists, libertarians and the apolitical? Gym junkies? Down-to-earth pragmatics and scatterbrained airheads? Stern, humourless people? Workaholics? I'm interested to know which blanket statements you're thinking about that have only rare exceptions.

vacri 13y ago

No, he didn't. He said "smart women choose not to go into coding. Leave that to us men to handle for you". Men hate the job? Really? Then why has Silicon Valley filled up with men from all over the world struggling to crowbar their way into it? Coding isn't a horrible job - if it was, you wouldn't have such high salaries and companies with anti-poaching arrangements to prevent further inflating those salaries. It was an extremely patronising comment, and seemed to verbally pat women as a demographic on the head. "I don't discriminate against applicants on gender, but hey girls, you don't want to apply anyway" The irritating thing is that you can only rarely group men or women together as being one way or the other. Once you get past primary and secondary sexual characteristics, there are no blanket statements which apply. Pick pretty much any blanket statement you like, and if you actually look at the men and women around you, you'll find plenty of exceptions. I actually think that the comment was a troll, but Poe's Law applies, and plenty of people will support his view.

ChrisNorstrom 13y ago
I originally thought his comment was sarcasm as well. His subconscious bias is making itself apparent and he's not consciously aware of it. Same with the other posters who replied to my comment. They're trying to disagree without actually making a point.
boyaka 13y ago
I see exceptions, true. But even more so I see the trend. I see exceptions becoming more rare.
- vacri 13y ago
  Are you looking at all the people around you? Retirees? Homeless bums? Quiet, bookish people? The religiose? Conservatives, progressives, anarchists, libertarians and the apolitical? Gym junkies? Down-to-earth pragmatics and scatterbrained airheads? Stern, humourless people? Workaholics? I'm interested to know which blanket statements you're thinking about that have only rare exceptions.