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can't help but feel down. i really enjoy developing in java :(

by ramoq 17y ago

timcederman 17y ago
You think Java will be discontinued?
- malkia 17y ago
  I dunno. Hard to tell, but I hope not. The language might suck, but the JVM is rocking!
- schizoidboy 17y ago
  I doubt it because IBM has too much skin in the game. Few people are aware, but IBM produces its own JDK: https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/java/jdk/ https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/java/jdk/
  - davidw 17y ago
    For that matter, the Apache Software Foundation has a Java implementation called 'Harmony', although I'm not sure they're allowed to call it Java.
    - brianm 17y ago
      That is a sadly long and storied history, which Stephen Colebourne describes best: http://www.jroller.com/scolebourne/entry/sun_apache_ip_in_pictures http://www.jroller.com/scolebourne/entry/sun_apache_ip_in_pi... There is some hope that the legal shenanigans will stop once ORCL finishes taking ownership of JAVA.
  - felipe 17y ago
    BEA has its own JVM as well, and guess who bought BEA? http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/jrockit/index.html http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/jrockit/index.html By the way, I think JRockIt is the best JVM out there for server-side deployments. I've used both JRockIt and Sun's JVM on EC2, and JRockIt has much better memory management.
TJensen 17y ago
There is no way Java is going anywhere. We can actually hope that Oracle loses some interest in Java, thereby loosening their grip and letting the language evolve. But I doubt it.
mseebach 17y ago
Java was the reason for Oracle to take over Sun (OK, also the hardware). Since Oracles commitment to open source is, "yeah, sure, Oracle will run on Linux. ONE version of ONE distro, but, yeah, Linux", this is more likely than ever to trigger a community-fork of Java, backed by IBM.
- nailer 17y ago
  Oracle runs on both RHEL (and Oracle's crappy respin) and SLES. Albeit the installer is broken and packages are only provided for Express.

can't help but feel down. i really enjoy developing in java :(

by ramoq 17y ago

can't help but feel down. i really enjoy developing in java :(

timcederman 17y ago

You think Java will be discontinued?

malkia 17y ago
I dunno. Hard to tell, but I hope not. The language might suck, but the JVM is rocking!
schizoidboy 17y ago
I doubt it because IBM has too much skin in the game. Few people are aware, but IBM produces its own JDK: https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/java/jdk/ https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/java/jdk/
- davidw 17y ago
  For that matter, the Apache Software Foundation has a Java implementation called 'Harmony', although I'm not sure they're allowed to call it Java.
  - brianm 17y ago
    That is a sadly long and storied history, which Stephen Colebourne describes best: http://www.jroller.com/scolebourne/entry/sun_apache_ip_in_pictures http://www.jroller.com/scolebourne/entry/sun_apache_ip_in_pi... There is some hope that the legal shenanigans will stop once ORCL finishes taking ownership of JAVA.
- felipe 17y ago
  BEA has its own JVM as well, and guess who bought BEA? http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/jrockit/index.html http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/jrockit/index.html By the way, I think JRockIt is the best JVM out there for server-side deployments. I've used both JRockIt and Sun's JVM on EC2, and JRockIt has much better memory management.

TJensen 17y ago

There is no way Java is going anywhere. We can actually hope that Oracle loses some interest in Java, thereby loosening their grip and letting the language evolve. But I doubt it.

mseebach 17y ago

Java was the reason for Oracle to take over Sun (OK, also the hardware). Since Oracles commitment to open source is, "yeah, sure, Oracle will run on Linux. ONE version of ONE distro, but, yeah, Linux", this is more likely than ever to trigger a community-fork of Java, backed by IBM.

nailer 17y ago
Oracle runs on both RHEL (and Oracle's crappy respin) and SLES. Albeit the installer is broken and packages are only provided for Express.