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>>This sort of attitude really, really disgusts me The idea that you have an environment that relies on an out-dated browser really, really disgusts me! :) Wh

by smtddr 13y ago

>>This sort of attitude really, really disgusts me The idea that you have an environment that relies on an out-dated browser really, really disgusts me! :) What if instead of actually fixing the real problem, everyone decides to just freeze on whatever version of a browser fits their needs at a specific moment? Fragmentation happens... and that's bad for everyone. I rather have people like you upset at me for forcefully upgrading your system than dealing with all the support tickets of "My IE6 and Firefox 3.5 show a blank page during checkout". There are major advances happening in webdevelopment and they'd move even faster if webdevs didn't have to worry about people who refuse to let go of some old browser. If it's an old version of TurboTax, fine. That's your thing. It only effects you. But the percentage of different browsers out there has an effect on everyone. It's like the way I was holding on to an out-dated at&t SIM card. They mailed me 4 new SIM cards but I refused to upgrade. Eventually, they just cut my service and I had to go into the shop to upgrade. When they're trying to support all the cellphones out there and upgrading the infrastructure, they can't have people dragging their feet with old SIMs they need to support. There is a very real cost to supporting old SIM cards that don't fit into the infrastructure they're trying to build out for new phones & SIMs. There is real cost in supporting old web-browsers when technology in web-development is moving ahead in leaps. I stand by what I said; if you think you've solved an issue by staying on an old browser version, you've made a mistake somewhere upstream that needs to be fixed there. If you truly can't move forward for some reason - go download some developer/nightly branch and install that. I'd want that branch to update itself to production path every month though because holding an old browser version is not a valid solution. It's just delaying the fix to whatever is really wrong in your environment.

userbinator 13y ago
> There are major advances happening in webdevelopment and they'd move even faster if webdevs didn't have to worry about people who refuse to let go of some old browser. The point is precisely that we don't want you to "move even faster", because it more often than not means breaking things that used to work perfectly fine for the end-user, and the only people who are really benefitting from these changes are the ones getting paid to "fix" things that weren't really broken in the first place - i.e. the "web developers", of whom there are far fewer than end-users (or just people who want to share their knowledge with the world and write a few HTML pages)!

by smtddr 13y ago

userbinator 13y ago

> There are major advances happening in webdevelopment and they'd move even faster if webdevs didn't have to worry about people who refuse to let go of some old browser. The point is precisely that we don't want you to "move even faster", because it more often than not means breaking things that used to work perfectly fine for the end-user, and the only people who are really benefitting from these changes are the ones getting paid to "fix" things that weren't really broken in the first place - i.e. the "web developers", of whom there are far fewer than end-users (or just people who want to share their knowledge with the world and write a few HTML pages)!