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I have an impression that the goal of all these new iOS/Android challengers is to get Linux on the mobile phone at all costs. Whereas the goal should be to crea
by mojuba 13y ago
I have an impression that the goal of all these new iOS/Android challengers is to get Linux on the mobile phone at all costs. Whereas the goal should be to create user experience that would be at least as pleasant and smooth as that of iOS, plus openness and transparency of the platform. At least.
That may imply Linux due to the lack of viable alternatives, but really, it should be built with users in mind, rather than perceived as a technical challenge of putting Touch on top of Linux.
(And please, stay away from Java in your next mobile OS. Among other things, you will ward off those of us, developers, who let's say are not neutral wrt. to certain programming languages. Edit: make Java optional if you wish.)
- fafner 13y agoThis has little to do with getting Linux on mobile. Maybe it's the motivation for some. But not the driving aspect. Samsung wants Tizen to gain back full control of their platform. Canonical wants Ubuntu Touch (and Mozilla Firefox OS) because the PC is getting less important for consumers. > (And please, stay away from Java in your next mobile OS. Among other things, you will ward off those of us, developers, who let's say are not neutral wrt. to certain programming languages. Edit: make Java optional if you wish.) Neither of them is based on Java. Tizen and FirefoxOS are (sadly) JavaScript only. Ubuntu Touch supports JavaScript/HTML5 and Qt (JavaScript + C++).
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- MikusR 13y agoSamsung wants Tizen only for the access to Intel engineers and their experience.
- eonil 13y agoMozilla has Emscripten. I don't think they're really JS only.
- lucian1900 13y agoEmscripten is JavaScript. It doesn't really compare.
- jevinskie 13y agoTizen has a native C++ toolchain just like the Android NDK.
- pjmlp 13y agoLast time I looked it had the frankenstein Bada influence, with two level initialization, no exceptions, handles vs pointers and so forth. Is that still the case.
- jevinskie 13y agoI'm unsure, I haven't done any app development, just toolchain work.
- fafner 13y agoI thought they wanted to limit Apps to JavaScript. Which was kinda sad due to all the enlightenment/e17 stuff they are using. Maybe it has changed.
- buu700 13y agoI have an impression that the goal of all these new iOS/Android challengers is to get Linux on the mobile phone at all costs. That makes no sense; Linux already has dominance in the mobile OS market via Android.
- mojuba 13y agoThat Android challengers are Linux-based doesn't imply Android is not. So logically it's still correct. What Android competitors could do though would be to (1) forget Java, (2) make the platform completely OSS-license compatible, (3) make the UX understandable and loveable by children and kittens.
- pjmlp 13y ago> (2) make the platform completely OSS-license compatible This will never happen given how the telecomunication market works
- pjmlp 13y agoOther developers put customer requirements and getting software delivered above tooling religion.