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As they say in Samoa, fai fai le mu (: Relax. Sites evolve and change. Small towns get bigger. Eventually you become an old man who yells at neighborhood ki

by jwecker 17y ago

As they say in Samoa, fai fai le mu (: Relax. Sites evolve and change. Small towns get bigger. Eventually you become an old man who yells at neighborhood kids for walking on the lawn. Before you get to that stage, enjoy the fact that these systems evolve, and for every one that gets too big for your own personal tastes, there are a multitude of smaller ones. And then there are even your network of actual friends. Take it easy (:

cubedice 17y ago
Maybe. But it's still sad to see this site change into a big site with a wider audience. I definitely care less and less for the "discussion" that takes place here, which is frustrating to watch. Perhaps I'm just feeling pessimistic, but it seems like recently the tide of new visitors is too large to be assimilated without permanently changing HN's culture. Damn, maybe I am getting old... EDIT: I also seem to recall that constant vigilance about the site's quality has always been a topic of discussion here. It's definitely healthy to raise a concern or two every now and again
- jacquesm 17y ago
  How to say this without getting moderated into the ground... Look, this site is what you make it. If you do not like the conversations, then start your own by submitting the kind of content that you'd like to see or at least participate. You've been here almost 2 years, in that time you have not made a single submission and one of your 20 comments in that time is about how you don't like the direction the site is going in. If you don't like it then take action, change the discussion to contain those elements that you care about and use your mod points to promote the content that you think contributes to the discussion most. There is an awful lot of 'oh, I really don't like the direction HN is going in' here, as well as 'it used to be so nice'. I don't get that, it's pretty good right now, there is a TON of interesting stuff posted and discussed here. I haven't been here nearly as long as you have, and I concur there are some 'growing pains' but on the whole it is pretty good. Help make it better!
  - cubedice 17y ago
    I agree that users should participate if they want to make the site better. And yes, there still are interesting posts. Still, I see people getting modded up for saying "go with the flow," and modded down for questioning the site's direction. First of all, these are OPINIONS, usually not worthy of up or down mods. I guess what I should have said was discussion about this site's direction used to be an important part of HN, and I wanted to continue that tradition.
    - jwecker 17y ago
      Introspection is very healthy and worthy, I agree. My response was meant to counteract a little of the alarmism. As for opinions getting mods, that's generally how it works- in a way every post is a poll and you get people agreeing with that opinion or not- everyone understanding that it's really just an opinion. It's certainly rarely meant to be personal. In short, if someone is modded down for questioning the site's direction, people are indicating that they respectfully disagree for the most part. (Man, I must have reached some kind of zen state today.)
  - biohacker42 17y ago
    Look, this site is what you make it. Yes, that's why a lot more people will make it into something that's DIFFERENT from what it was when there were a lot fewer people. You've been here almost 2 years, in that time you have not made a single submission Red herring. If you don't like it then take action He can not do diddlysquat. Only pg and the mods could take action by viciously removing any article which even remotely strays from a pre-determined core character. There is an awful lot of 'oh, I really don't like the direction HN is going in' here, as well as 'it used to be so nice'. I don't get that, it's pretty good right now That's because we've seen this movie before. You may not have had a front row seat for the downfall of your favorite social news site, but many of us have seen it happen many times. I haven't been here nearly as long as you have, and I concur there are some 'growing pains' but on the whole it is pretty good. And as much as I like this place, I predict it is doomed, and before long even you will abandon it.
    - 17y ago
- biohacker42 17y ago
  Damn, maybe I am getting oldDamn, maybe I am getting old You're not getting old. This has happened to many sites. And it will happen here as well. If you go way back in time you see me politely disagree with pg that soft policing is doomed to failure and the redditization of hn. Oh well. C'est la vie.
- anigbrowl 17y ago
  Look on the bright side - newmogul (HN clone for finance) still gets many interesting posts but community discussion there has almost completely dried up.

by jwecker 17y ago

cubedice 17y ago

Maybe. But it's still sad to see this site change into a big site with a wider audience. I definitely care less and less for the "discussion" that takes place here, which is frustrating to watch. Perhaps I'm just feeling pessimistic, but it seems like recently the tide of new visitors is too large to be assimilated without permanently changing HN's culture. Damn, maybe I am getting old... EDIT: I also seem to recall that constant vigilance about the site's quality has always been a topic of discussion here. It's definitely healthy to raise a concern or two every now and again

jacquesm 17y ago
How to say this without getting moderated into the ground... Look, this site is what you make it. If you do not like the conversations, then start your own by submitting the kind of content that you'd like to see or at least participate. You've been here almost 2 years, in that time you have not made a single submission and one of your 20 comments in that time is about how you don't like the direction the site is going in. If you don't like it then take action, change the discussion to contain those elements that you care about and use your mod points to promote the content that you think contributes to the discussion most. There is an awful lot of 'oh, I really don't like the direction HN is going in' here, as well as 'it used to be so nice'. I don't get that, it's pretty good right now, there is a TON of interesting stuff posted and discussed here. I haven't been here nearly as long as you have, and I concur there are some 'growing pains' but on the whole it is pretty good. Help make it better!
- cubedice 17y ago
  I agree that users should participate if they want to make the site better. And yes, there still are interesting posts. Still, I see people getting modded up for saying "go with the flow," and modded down for questioning the site's direction. First of all, these are OPINIONS, usually not worthy of up or down mods. I guess what I should have said was discussion about this site's direction used to be an important part of HN, and I wanted to continue that tradition.
  - jwecker 17y ago
    Introspection is very healthy and worthy, I agree. My response was meant to counteract a little of the alarmism. As for opinions getting mods, that's generally how it works- in a way every post is a poll and you get people agreeing with that opinion or not- everyone understanding that it's really just an opinion. It's certainly rarely meant to be personal. In short, if someone is modded down for questioning the site's direction, people are indicating that they respectfully disagree for the most part. (Man, I must have reached some kind of zen state today.)
- biohacker42 17y ago
  Look, this site is what you make it. Yes, that's why a lot more people will make it into something that's DIFFERENT from what it was when there were a lot fewer people. You've been here almost 2 years, in that time you have not made a single submission Red herring. If you don't like it then take action He can not do diddlysquat. Only pg and the mods could take action by viciously removing any article which even remotely strays from a pre-determined core character. There is an awful lot of 'oh, I really don't like the direction HN is going in' here, as well as 'it used to be so nice'. I don't get that, it's pretty good right now That's because we've seen this movie before. You may not have had a front row seat for the downfall of your favorite social news site, but many of us have seen it happen many times. I haven't been here nearly as long as you have, and I concur there are some 'growing pains' but on the whole it is pretty good. And as much as I like this place, I predict it is doomed, and before long even you will abandon it.
  - 17y ago
biohacker42 17y ago
Damn, maybe I am getting oldDamn, maybe I am getting old You're not getting old. This has happened to many sites. And it will happen here as well. If you go way back in time you see me politely disagree with pg that soft policing is doomed to failure and the redditization of hn. Oh well. C'est la vie.
anigbrowl 17y ago
Look on the bright side - newmogul (HN clone for finance) still gets many interesting posts but community discussion there has almost completely dried up.