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Wow that's awesome. I work at a big bank and we have none of those things. Everything is shit and I can't wait to leave. Our mobile development environment is

by rfnslyr 13y ago

Wow that's awesome. I work at a big bank and we have none of those things. Everything is shit and I can't wait to leave. Our mobile development environment is a locked down internal Windows XP laptop that doesn't let anything in or out, so we had to write our own tools to package code to leave the laptop. We wrote a simple little "chat" client in Node, but before sending the code off, it was packaged into a .jpg, and unpacked on the other side (my development macbook). This is how we've been dealing with code for over a year now. Shit pay, 0 resources basically. Can't wait to leave.

artmageddon 13y ago
I've been there(working at a big bank with a lackluster development system), so I know how it feels. Keep pushing and get yourself out!
- blibble 13y ago
  I work for a large bank, and whilst my desktop is completely locked down, our development is done on remote (but still internal) boxes where we're essentially given free reign. each team is essentially autonomous, and they pick the tools they wish to use. yes, there is lots of paperwork, e.g. getting anything deployed requires multiple people from across the firm to agree, but it's mostly automated and doesn't take more a few hours of background time, and it's understandable: the amount of money the firm would lose if something went drastically wrong is eye boggling. the problems are challenging and interesting, I get to experiment with extremely high end equipment that isn't available for general purchase, and the hours are good (as is the pay). (though I admit there are parts of the organisation that don't have this freedom: you have to be careful when interviewing)
  - ExpiredLink 13y ago
    > each team is essentially autonomous, and they pick the tools they wish to use. This will lead to a maintenance problem shortly. I worked in similar environments. Technically clueless managers think that they only have to throw requirements over the wall and let the developers figure out how to implement them. When someone leaves the team the replacement needs to become acquainted with totally unfamiliar code, libraries and tools.
loganfrederick 13y ago
I am so relieved to find another person in a situation nearly identical to mine also on HN. I share your sentiments.
akfanta 13y ago
I did my co-op in a big bank. The stuff you said is exactly the reason why I am working at a start-up now. Or maybe it's just banks that suck?
bane 13y ago
I've had a few jobs that were similar, but I ended up loving them. Pay was good, resourcing was terrible, but the problem sets were really interesting and overcoming the technical challenges to get work done kept it interesting.
- rfnslyr 13y ago
  Haha, you are certifiably insane. When I do a job, I expect not to pay much attention to my setup. I want to spend max 2 days to setup my environment then never touch it again.
icedchai 13y ago
that's so terrible! is this serious? why aren't you leaving right now?
- rfnslyr 13y ago
  Honestly the managers moved heaven and hell to get me into this position because I specialize in a specific piece of software that they are using. I can't just ditch them. I love the team and I will see this product through until production, then I'm asking for 40k/year on top of my current pay or I'm leaving.
  - Domenic_S 13y ago
    That sounds backwards. Shouldn't you ask for the $40k while you still have leverage (product isn't in production)?
    - vinceguidry 13y ago
      The fact that his managers had to move heaven and hell to get him indicates that he doesn't actually have any leverage. Once the project's out, then he will have leverage in the form of a track record. Now his managers can say "look at what this guy's done for us, do you honestly want to let him go?"
  - Jayschwa 13y ago
    You go from "Everything is shit and I can't wait to leave" to this? You sound like me two years ago. All I did was bitch about my job, but made excuses whenever someone asked me why I stayed. I suggest you find something better as soon as possible. Once you do, you'll wonder why you ever stuck around the hell hole for as long as you did.
dinkumthinkum 13y ago
I don't see why you've stayed this long. I guess you have your reasons.
q2261 13y ago
wow that's insane
Gaurav322 13y ago
same with me, I have a working experience in Accenture and IBM and Both company sucks... I do not get any benefit such as daily perks which make me not to leave my job... Recently, I applied for Google Designer Job and when I get a job there, I swear that I will write a blog post for Hacker News about the working environment of Accenture...
markus2012 13y ago
Well, just for a moment I think I would have smiled to myself if I had packaged it up as a jpg and 'shipped' it. You can't stop me... :-)

by rfnslyr 13y ago

artmageddon 13y ago

I've been there(working at a big bank with a lackluster development system), so I know how it feels. Keep pushing and get yourself out!

blibble 13y ago
I work for a large bank, and whilst my desktop is completely locked down, our development is done on remote (but still internal) boxes where we're essentially given free reign. each team is essentially autonomous, and they pick the tools they wish to use. yes, there is lots of paperwork, e.g. getting anything deployed requires multiple people from across the firm to agree, but it's mostly automated and doesn't take more a few hours of background time, and it's understandable: the amount of money the firm would lose if something went drastically wrong is eye boggling. the problems are challenging and interesting, I get to experiment with extremely high end equipment that isn't available for general purchase, and the hours are good (as is the pay). (though I admit there are parts of the organisation that don't have this freedom: you have to be careful when interviewing)
- ExpiredLink 13y ago
  > each team is essentially autonomous, and they pick the tools they wish to use. This will lead to a maintenance problem shortly. I worked in similar environments. Technically clueless managers think that they only have to throw requirements over the wall and let the developers figure out how to implement them. When someone leaves the team the replacement needs to become acquainted with totally unfamiliar code, libraries and tools.

loganfrederick 13y ago

I am so relieved to find another person in a situation nearly identical to mine also on HN. I share your sentiments.

akfanta 13y ago

I did my co-op in a big bank. The stuff you said is exactly the reason why I am working at a start-up now. Or maybe it's just banks that suck?

bane 13y ago

I've had a few jobs that were similar, but I ended up loving them. Pay was good, resourcing was terrible, but the problem sets were really interesting and overcoming the technical challenges to get work done kept it interesting.

rfnslyr 13y ago
Haha, you are certifiably insane. When I do a job, I expect not to pay much attention to my setup. I want to spend max 2 days to setup my environment then never touch it again.

icedchai 13y ago

that's so terrible! is this serious? why aren't you leaving right now?

rfnslyr 13y ago
Honestly the managers moved heaven and hell to get me into this position because I specialize in a specific piece of software that they are using. I can't just ditch them. I love the team and I will see this product through until production, then I'm asking for 40k/year on top of my current pay or I'm leaving.
- Domenic_S 13y ago
  That sounds backwards. Shouldn't you ask for the $40k while you still have leverage (product isn't in production)?
  - vinceguidry 13y ago
    The fact that his managers had to move heaven and hell to get him indicates that he doesn't actually have any leverage. Once the project's out, then he will have leverage in the form of a track record. Now his managers can say "look at what this guy's done for us, do you honestly want to let him go?"
- Jayschwa 13y ago
  You go from "Everything is shit and I can't wait to leave" to this? You sound like me two years ago. All I did was bitch about my job, but made excuses whenever someone asked me why I stayed. I suggest you find something better as soon as possible. Once you do, you'll wonder why you ever stuck around the hell hole for as long as you did.

dinkumthinkum 13y ago

I don't see why you've stayed this long. I guess you have your reasons.

q2261 13y ago

wow that's insane

Gaurav322 13y ago

same with me, I have a working experience in Accenture and IBM and Both company sucks... I do not get any benefit such as daily perks which make me not to leave my job... Recently, I applied for Google Designer Job and when I get a job there, I swear that I will write a blog post for Hacker News about the working environment of Accenture...

markus2012 13y ago

Well, just for a moment I think I would have smiled to myself if I had packaged it up as a jpg and 'shipped' it. You can't stop me... :-)