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You seem to implicitly concede one of my core points: that all this crap is based on appeal to emotion, rather than a rational reason for protest.. if we at lea

by Meekro 13y ago

You seem to implicitly concede one of my core points: that all this crap is based on appeal to emotion, rather than a rational reason for protest.. if we at least agree on that, I'm glad. Those industry-destroying innovations tend to take many years to pick up steam, and anyone who's paying attention will likely see the writing on the wall long before it happens. I'd like to think that I'd be able to re-train for a new profession before getting steamrolled, but perhaps I'm too optimistic? If I was forced to accept a new minimum-wage job, I'd probably be angry, but that wouldn't mean that my discontentment was based in reason.

pjscott 13y ago
> I'd like to think that I'd be able to re-train for a new profession before getting steamrolled, but perhaps I'm too optimistic? No, you'd probably be able to pull it off. If you have decent math and writing skills, those would transfer to a bunch of other jobs, and I'd bet that you're pretty smart. In other words, you're probably not a representative sample of the population.
vijucat 13y ago
I think we are in agreement. However, I don't see distress at getting fired or forced to move out of the neighbourhood in which you grew up as an illegitimate reason for protest. I get your viewpoint that what's good for humanity need not be humane to ALL humans, just the overall concept of humanity. However, I can't escape the feeling that there is an unnecessarily ruthless resource re-allocation going on here. Killing one process and allocating those resources to another in an instant makes sense in OS design, but maybe processes that reallocate resources from some living beings to others can be more compassionate without compromising that much in terms of efficiency. Even my web server (nginx) has a -s stop for fast shutdown and a -s quit for graceful shutdown. :-)
- ahomescu1 13y ago
  > However, I don't see distress at getting fired or forced to move out of the neighbourhood in which you grew up as an illegitimate reason for protest. Maybe I'm just speaking for myself, but the house I grew up in is owned by my grandparents, so no one can ever force them off their own property (or me, if I wanted to live there). IMHO, it's stupid to complain that you can't rent someone else's property forever, and that they're throwing you out for a better deal. Rent is supposed to be short-term (or at least that's how it is in my country).

by Meekro 13y ago

pjscott 13y ago

> I'd like to think that I'd be able to re-train for a new profession before getting steamrolled, but perhaps I'm too optimistic? No, you'd probably be able to pull it off. If you have decent math and writing skills, those would transfer to a bunch of other jobs, and I'd bet that you're pretty smart. In other words, you're probably not a representative sample of the population.

vijucat 13y ago

I think we are in agreement. However, I don't see distress at getting fired or forced to move out of the neighbourhood in which you grew up as an illegitimate reason for protest. I get your viewpoint that what's good for humanity need not be humane to ALL humans, just the overall concept of humanity. However, I can't escape the feeling that there is an unnecessarily ruthless resource re-allocation going on here. Killing one process and allocating those resources to another in an instant makes sense in OS design, but maybe processes that reallocate resources from some living beings to others can be more compassionate without compromising that much in terms of efficiency. Even my web server (nginx) has a -s stop for fast shutdown and a -s quit for graceful shutdown. :-)

ahomescu1 13y ago
> However, I don't see distress at getting fired or forced to move out of the neighbourhood in which you grew up as an illegitimate reason for protest. Maybe I'm just speaking for myself, but the house I grew up in is owned by my grandparents, so no one can ever force them off their own property (or me, if I wanted to live there). IMHO, it's stupid to complain that you can't rent someone else's property forever, and that they're throwing you out for a better deal. Rent is supposed to be short-term (or at least that's how it is in my country).