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Guys, guys, come on. We should respect their wishes to never talk about that again and forget the whole thing ever happened.[1] I mean, it's not like they oug
by Zikes 13y ago
Guys, guys, come on. We should respect their wishes to never talk about that again and forget the whole thing ever happened.[1]
I mean, it's not like they ought to apologize for the atrocious way they facilitated the virtual lynching of one of their core contributors. Better to just sweep it all under the rug.
[1] http://blog.nodejs.org/2013/12/03/bnoordhuis-departure/ http://blog.nodejs.org/2013/12/03/bnoordhuis-departure/
EDIT: For the folks that say it's just "petty drama", I invite you to read another man's account of a very similar experience: http://www.polygon.com/2013/11/6/5075106/adam-orth-xbox-one-gdc-next http://www.polygon.com/2013/11/6/5075106/adam-orth-xbox-one-...
Internet bullying isn't just some thing that happens to teenagers. It's a stream of tweets, phone calls, texts, hate mail, death threats, and more. I can only speculate about how much of that Ben received, but a fair share of it was very public, and Joyent was a participant in that.
As the face of node.js it was Joyent's responsibility to defuse the situation and protect the people involved. Instead they threw gasoline into the fire, further inciting the mob justice that was already well underway.
- untog 13y agoWe should respect their wishes to never talk about that again It's hardly just their wishes. Plenty of us wish that any discussion about Node wouldn't immediately get dragged down into petty drama. Maybe we could, y'know, talk about the language and ecosystem for a change.
- Zikes 13y agoI think you posted your reply just as I made an edit to my comment. I invite you to re-read my comment and reassess the value of the "petty drama".
- sehr 13y ago"virtual lynching" Hyperbole much? "...to reject a pull request that eliminates a gendered pronoun on the principle that pronouns should in fact be gendered would constitute a fireable offense for me and for Joyent..." That was (imo) the worst part of the blog post. You're comparing death threats from obsessed fans of a platform known for being filled with users of a younger age, to angry backhanded tweets and blog posts from professional software developers. C'mon now.
- iends 13y agoI really have a hard time understanding what you're trying to say. People are upset that Joyent called him an asshole on their company blog, and things really did get out of hand on github for a period of time (I suspect most of that has been "cleaned up" by now). Not sure what you mean by "... of a platform known for being filled with users of a younger age." Is this really true, or is it some kind of attempt at an insult?
- dangrossman 13y agoThe platform he's referring to is Xbox, per the Adam Orth article. It's a game console, some of the people insulting him were likely children.
- hemoglobin 13y agoPetty Drama
- rmrfrmrf 13y agoWhere we you when Adria Richards was being virtually bullied? My guess is that you were DDoSing SendGrid.
- Zikes 13y agoHey, if you want to use ad hominem to discredit my argument be my guest, but at least put a little effort into it. Seriously, I use Zikes everywhere, it wouldn't even be that difficult.