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https://thedaywefightback.org https://thedaywefightback.org There's also a link there to a page that puts a #STOPTHENSA overlay on your Facebook and Twitter pr

https://thedaywefightback.org https://thedaywefightback.org There's also a link there to a page that puts a #STOPTHENSA overlay on your Facebook and Twitter profile pics.

cryoshon 13y ago
I support this campaign. It won't work singularly, but it might be another useful bullet point in fermenting dissent against the NSA. There are two major hurdles to social change success which this campaign does not overcome: 1. There's no political threat being projected, just general, unfocused discontent 2. There's no hook to entice people who don't already care about the issue
- eevilspock 13y ago
  The best political threat we can create is converting minds. We need more writing and better articles to ground the flags flown on Facebook and Twitter. We need to appeal to people's reason and principles. Otherwise why bother? If I could write well, I'd start a dialog around the concept that "We shouldn't have needed Snowden". The fact that we don't have transparency into our own government, that it took someone to break the law to give us the transparency we most certainly should have had into the NSA's activities (The national security arguments don't cut it and we need to explain that well), is a clear sign that our democracy is broken, that "government by and for the people" is dying.
- sinak 13y ago
  Any suggestions on 2? We'd love to change the page to help improve that aspect of it if we can. In particular on the day of action itself.
  - cryoshon 13y ago
    Focus on average joes/peasants who have been hurt/otherwise disadvantaged by the surveillance. If you can't find such an example, you need to take off the kid gloves and explain clearly that endemic surveillance is a cause of AND an effect of totalitarian governments. Be sure to emphasize the historical incidences (STASI, Hoover, present day China/Russia) in which surveillance has been abused in order to support the narrative that once performed, surveillance will result in abuse. As far as the day of action itself, I'd shift your focus onto trying to drum up physical presence-- anyone with a campaign can flood the internet, but flooding meatspace is much more difficult and also much more effectual. EDIT: I thought about my comment for a while then realized it could be re-worded and re-thought out in a very simple way. Your movement needs agitprop. Find a hornet's nest for the average joe, then hit it. Focusing on Aaron isn't the right way to go about that because most people have never heard of him. I have more feedback; email me if you'd like.

https://thedaywefightback.org https://thedaywefightback.org There's also a link there to a page that puts a #STOPTHENSA overlay on your Facebook and Twitter profile pics.

cryoshon 13y ago

I support this campaign. It won't work singularly, but it might be another useful bullet point in fermenting dissent against the NSA. There are two major hurdles to social change success which this campaign does not overcome: 1. There's no political threat being projected, just general, unfocused discontent 2. There's no hook to entice people who don't already care about the issue

eevilspock 13y ago
The best political threat we can create is converting minds. We need more writing and better articles to ground the flags flown on Facebook and Twitter. We need to appeal to people's reason and principles. Otherwise why bother? If I could write well, I'd start a dialog around the concept that "We shouldn't have needed Snowden". The fact that we don't have transparency into our own government, that it took someone to break the law to give us the transparency we most certainly should have had into the NSA's activities (The national security arguments don't cut it and we need to explain that well), is a clear sign that our democracy is broken, that "government by and for the people" is dying.
sinak 13y ago
Any suggestions on 2? We'd love to change the page to help improve that aspect of it if we can. In particular on the day of action itself.
- cryoshon 13y ago
  Focus on average joes/peasants who have been hurt/otherwise disadvantaged by the surveillance. If you can't find such an example, you need to take off the kid gloves and explain clearly that endemic surveillance is a cause of AND an effect of totalitarian governments. Be sure to emphasize the historical incidences (STASI, Hoover, present day China/Russia) in which surveillance has been abused in order to support the narrative that once performed, surveillance will result in abuse. As far as the day of action itself, I'd shift your focus onto trying to drum up physical presence-- anyone with a campaign can flood the internet, but flooding meatspace is much more difficult and also much more effectual. EDIT: I thought about my comment for a while then realized it could be re-worded and re-thought out in a very simple way. Your movement needs agitprop. Find a hornet's nest for the average joe, then hit it. Focusing on Aaron isn't the right way to go about that because most people have never heard of him. I have more feedback; email me if you'd like.